[QE-users] Fwd: under estimate the bandgap in Quantum espresso

PRASAD SANKALPA WANNINAYAKA 2019s17502 at stu.cmb.ac.lk
Sat Feb 17 02:26:41 CET 2024


Dear Omar Ashour,
thanks for your valuable suggestions. yes, I'm using U values obtained by
linear response calculation. And I have performed relaxation calculations
for the structure. I found that there is an issue can anyone know about
this, can you please explain this?  "When performing DFT+U calculation, the
ground state might get stuck in a *local minimum*, in such cases we need to
provide starting_ns_eigenvalue to help calculation reach desired/actual
ground state."

best regards,
Prasad Sankalpa

On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 12:10 AM Omar Ashour via users <
users at lists.quantum-espresso.org> wrote:

> I have not checked your input files but here are a couple of thoughts
> based on your opening paragraph.
>
> Hybrid functionals usually lead to larger band gaps compared to semi-local
> functionals like PBE. You should compare to a reference using PBE+U. Use
> ortho-atomic projectors for DFT+U. How did you get your U value? You can
> try computing it with linear response using the hp.x code.
>
> Further, the materials project structures are done in a high throughput
> manner and I always recommend you relax them again properly for your own
> projects. They are also computed in VASP-- relaxation results are, strictly
> speaking, not transferable between codes/pseudo potentials. You should
> check the pressure/stress and forces in your cell when using a structure
> you didn't relax yourself and judge whether they're reasonable.
>
> Best,
>
> Omar A. Ashour
> UC Berkeley
>
> On Feb 16, 2024, at 4:52 AM, PRASAD SANKALPA WANNINAYAKA <
> 2019s17502 at stu.cmb.ac.lk> wrote:
>
> 
> Dear  Dr.Giovanni Cantele,
> Thanks for your reply, I'm using the DFT + U method for calculations. I'm
> following the materials project site as the base reference for the
> structure. that bandgap value was obtained from the references that follow
> the hybrid density functional method. I have attached the SCF and band
> calculation inputs file below. Can please check these input files.
>
> Thank you,
>
> &CONTROL
>   calculation = 'scf',
>   restart_mode = 'from_scratch',
>   prefix = 'bands',
>   outdir = './tmp/'
>   pseudo_dir = './psuedo_sr'
>   verbosity = 'high'
> /
>
> &SYSTEM
>     ibrav = 4,
>     a = 5.14011, c = 13.82966,
>     cosBC = 0,
>     cosAC = 0,
>     cosAB = -0.5,
>     nat = 30, ntyp = 4,
>     ecutwfc = 50,
>     ecutrho = 400.0,
>     nbnd = 280
>     occupations = 'smearing', degauss = 0.001, smearing = 'gaussian',
>     nspin=2,
>     starting_magnetization(1) =   4
>     starting_magnetization(2) =   -4
>     starting_magnetization(3) =   0
>     starting_magnetization(4) =   0
> /
>
> &electrons
>     conv_thr = 1.0e-7
>     electron_maxstep = 500
>     mixing_beta = 0.3d0
> /
>
> ATOMIC_SPECIES
>      Fe1 55.845 Fe.pbe-spn-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
>      Fe2 55.845 Fe.pbe-spn-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
>      Ti 47.867 Ti.pbe-spn-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
>      O  15.999 O.pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
>
> ATOMIC_POSITIONS (crystal)
> Ti     0.333333671         0.666666687         0.019728789
> Ti     0.333333671         0.666666687         0.313609332
> Ti     0.000000000         0.000000000         0.353068292
> Ti     0.000000000         0.000000000         0.646931648
> Ti     0.666667104         0.333333343         0.686390758
> Ti     0.666667104         0.333333343         0.980271161
> Fe1     0.000000000         0.000000000         0.141661420
> Fe2     0.666667104         0.333333343         0.191701844
> Fe2     0.666667104         0.333333343         0.474968076
> Fe1     0.333333671         0.666666687         0.525031984
> Fe1     0.333333671         0.666666687         0.808297873
> Fe2     0.000000000         0.000000000         0.858338833
> O     0.679246187         0.972118676         0.254297256
> O     0.027881473         0.707126856         0.254297256
> O     0.292873383         0.320754439         0.254297256
> O     0.987438619         0.361118644         0.079032004
> O     0.373680741         0.012561911         0.079032004
> O     0.638881803         0.626319408         0.079032004
> O     0.345913947         0.305455208         0.587620795
> O     0.694545090         0.040458456         0.587620795
> O     0.959542215         0.654086351         0.587620795
> O     0.654086947         0.694544613         0.412379205
> O     0.040458292         0.345913559         0.412379205
> O     0.305455744         0.959541857         0.412379205
> O     0.012562054         0.638881326         0.920967937
> O     0.361118942         0.373680562         0.920967937
> O     0.626320004         0.987438083         0.920967937
> O     0.320754468         0.027881414         0.745702744
> O     0.707127631         0.679245710         0.745702744
> O     0.972119093         0.292872876         0.745702744
>
> K_POINTS (automatic)
> 7 7 3 0 0 0
> HUBBARD (atomic)
>   U Fe1-3d 5.3
>   U Fe2-3d 5.3
>
> best regards
> Prasad Sankalpa
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 4:06 PM Giovanni Cantele <
> giovanni.cantele at spin.cnr.it> wrote:
>
>> Dear
>> Prasad, there are not sufficient data to understand what's happening.
>>
>> 1) DFT systematically underestimates band gaps, to what extent depends on
>> the material. If this is the case there is nothing to do unless moving to
>> other approximations that at least partially solve this problem
>> (DFT+U,hybrid functionals,GW,....)
>> 2) do the references you mention concern theoretical estimations within
>> DFT or experimental data? While when comparing with experiments you
>> might experient the limit of the previous point, whereas if you find
>> other calculations, within the same level of approximation, you should find
>> at least
>> similar (if not equal) results
>> 3) in the case you have reference calculations to compare with and there
>> is no agreement, check your input geometry and unit cell (to understand if
>> they
>> are wrong) as well as the convergence parameters (Brillouin zone
>> sampling, wave function cutoff, charge density cutoff if it applies, ....)
>>
>> Giovanni
>>
>> --
>>
>> Giovanni Cantele, PhD
>> CNR-SPIN
>> c/o Dipartimento di Fisica
>> Universita' di Napoli "Federico II"
>> Complesso Universitario M. S. Angelo - Ed. 6
>> Via Cintia, I-80126, Napoli, Italy
>> e-mail: giovanni.cantele at spin.cnr.it <giovanni.cantele at spin.cnr.it>
>> Phone: +39 081 676910
>> Skype contact: giocan74
>>
>> ResearcherID: http://www.researcherid.com/rid/A-1951-2009
>> Web page: https://sites.google.com/view/giovanni-cantele/home
>>
>>
>> Il giorno ven 16 feb 2024 alle ore 10:40 PRASAD SANKALPA WANNINAYAKA <
>> 2019s17502 at stu.cmb.ac.lk> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Dear QE users,
>>> I am studying the electronic properties of FeTiO3 using QE when
>>> calculating the band structure using 'bands.x' calculation. I obtained the
>>> bandgap as 0.01eV but according to references that value is 2.54 eV. i need
>>> to know why this is happening.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Best regards
>>> Prasad Sankalpa
>>> Physics Undergraduate
>>>
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