[Pw_forum] Convergence of relax of slab calculation

ben liew liewkienben at gmail.com
Fri Aug 7 02:34:51 CEST 2015


Dear Ari Paavo Seitsonen,

Thanks for your advice. I will try your suggestion and see what will happen.



Best Regards,

*Ben Liew*
Ph.D Student
Fuel Cell Institute,
The National University of Malaysia,
43600 Bangi,
Selangor, Malaysia.
Contact no. : +6016 552 0878
Email           : liewkienben at gmail.com

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:28 AM, Mahya Zare <mahyazare68 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I want electronic and optical properties of cerium oxide do I check my
> inputs to check the correct sheet is Nano?
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Ari P Seitsonen <Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Ben Liew,
>>
>>   If one is lucky, the system might converge to the right magnetic ground
>> state with a "random guess". Yet if the system has several local minima, or
>> the initial guess is very far from the true magnetic ordering, one might
>> get very bad initial densities (total and spin density, or spin-up and
>> spin-down densities), leading to difficulties in convergence and maybe even
>> divergence. Yet-another-issue might be bad description of the electronic
>> structure with the GGA's, I seem to remember that in the case of MnO2 the
>> GGA gives reasonable results, even if the electronic band gap is naturally
>> much too small (and using the smearing should help to get a convergence
>> anyway).
>>
>>   I would myself start by trying a weakly ferromagnetic guess (for
>> example 'starting_magnetization(1) = 0.2' and seeing if something happens.
>> If it converges, or doesn't, I would then see if an anti-ferromagnetic
>> solution might also make sense (two types of Mn atoms in cell, etc).
>>
>>
>>     Greetings,
>>
>>        apsi
>>
>>
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>>   Ari Paavo Seitsonen / Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi / http://www.iki.fi/~apsi/
>>   Ecole Normale Supérieure (ENS), Département de Chimie, Paris
>>   Mobile (F) : +33 789 37 24 25    (CH) : +41 79 71 90 935
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, ben liew wrote:
>>
>> Dear Bahadir,
>>> Thanks for your comments. I will try using a lower mixing_beta and change
>>> the mixing_mode='local-TF'.
>>>
>>> Dear Ari Paavo Seitsonen,
>>>
>>> Thanks. I have no knowledge on the magnetism of my system. How could I
>>> know
>>> what value of starting_magnetization that I should use in my slab
>>> calculation? Does the starting_magnetization affect the convergence of my
>>> calculation?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ben Liew
>>> Ph.D Student
>>> Fuel Cell Institute,
>>> The National University of Malaysia,
>>> 43600 Bangi,
>>> Selangor, Malaysia.
>>> Contact no. : +6016 552 0878
>>> Email           : liewkienben at gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Bahadır salmankurt <
>>> bsalmankurt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>       Dear Ari P Seitsonen,
>>> I didnt know that mixing_mode='local-TF' effect initial magnetic
>>> moments. thanks for this. By the way, Do you know about e field
>>> configuration? for example, for slab + molecule systems whose atomic
>>> positions are in 0.5 and 0.65 along z direction , respectively, what
>>> must values of the  emaxpos and eopreg be?
>>> Bests
>>> Bahadir
>>>
>>> 2015-08-05 10:59 GMT+03:00 Ari P Seitsonen <Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi>:
>>>
>>>       Dear Ben Liew,
>>>
>>>         Without looking at the structure itself, adding to the
>>>       previous comment about the algorithm for mixing, you have
>>>       not really given any initial magnetic moments even if you
>>>       have 'nspin = 2': The 'starting_magnetization(1) = 0.0'
>>>       does not give any preferential spin ordering. Do you know
>>>       something about this, is the system expected to be
>>>       ferromagnetic, antiferromagnetic, ...?
>>>
>>>         Tiny issues, I usually do the first calculation without
>>>       the surface dipole as it makes the convergence always a
>>>       bit trickier; and your
>>>       'B ~= 2 * A', but you give the same number of k points in
>>>       both directions. (I usually tend to use smearing schemes
>>>       where the occupations are guaranteed to be in the physical
>>>       range of [0:1], but this is just a personal preference and
>>>       should thus be ignored)
>>>
>>>           Greetings,
>>>
>>>              apsi
>>>
>>>
>>> -=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*
>>>       =-
>>>         Ari Paavo Seitsonen / Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi /
>>>       http://www.iki.fi/~apsi/
>>>         Ecole Normale Supérieure (ENS), Département de Chimie,
>>>       Paris
>>>         Mobile (F) : +33 789 37 24 25    (CH) : +41 79 71 90 935
>>>
>>>
>>>       On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, ben liew wrote:
>>>
>>>             Dear PWSCF users,
>>>
>>>             Hi, I am a new user of Pwscf. I am working on
>>>             slab calculation for pyrolusite MnO2 (110)
>>>             surface with 3 atomic layers calculation and
>>>             fixed bottom 2 layers and only top atomic
>>>             layer is allowed to be relaxed. I have also
>>>             include the dipole correction for the
>>>             calculation to counteract with the interaction
>>>             between slabs. However, my calculation doesn't
>>>             seems to be converged as the scf accuracy is
>>>             not decreasing over each iteration. Below is
>>>             the estimated scf accuracy after hundreds of
>>>             iterations, it is not converging
>>>
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             373.64728976 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             106.52177156 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>              96.97567125 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             207.03807187 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             132.53045831 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>              77.19101827 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             112.41885075 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>              93.27430429 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             116.68049786 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             587.09711027 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             374.45312501 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             106.89811469 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>              96.84898888 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             207.83006869 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             132.74588293 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>              77.09445200 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             112.41688597 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>              93.57796273 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             116.25663912 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             587.39968959 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             374.91438307 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>             106.71641516 Ry
>>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>>              96.75392736 Ry
>>>
>>>             I have include my input file as followed. Can
>>>             anyone tell me is that any problem with my
>>>             input file?
>>>
>>>              &control
>>>                 calculation = 'relax'
>>>                 tstress=.true.
>>>                 tprnfor=.true.
>>>
>>>             pseudo_dir='/home/ben/Downloads/espresso-5.1.2/pseudo'
>>>                 outdir='./vc3'
>>>                 prefix='pyrolusite'
>>>                 tefield=.true.
>>>                 dipfield=.true.
>>>              /
>>>              &system
>>>                 ibrav=8,
>>>                 A=2.8563, B=6.2199, C=20.0
>>>                 nat=18, ntyp=2,
>>>                 starting_magnetization(1)=0.0
>>>                 nspin=2
>>>                 ecutwfc=37.0
>>>                 ecutrho=250.0
>>>                 occupations='smearing'
>>>                 smearing='m-v'
>>>                 degauss=0.01
>>>                 edir=3
>>>                 emaxpos=0.5
>>>                 eopreg=0.1
>>>                 eamp=0.001
>>>              /
>>>              &electrons
>>>                 electron_maxstep=500
>>>                 conv_thr=1.0d-6
>>>                 mixing_beta=0.7
>>>              /
>>>              &ions
>>>                 ion_dynamics='bfgs'
>>>             /
>>>             ATOMIC_SPECIES
>>>               Mn 54.9380  Mn.pbe-spn-kjpaw_psl.0.3.1.UPF
>>>               O  15.9994  O.pbe-kjpaw.UPF
>>>             ATOMIC_POSITIONS (angstrom)
>>>             O         1.428129   3.109734   0.000000  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         1.428129   0.000241   0.652526  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             Mn       1.428129   3.109896   1.883398  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         0.000000   1.885646   1.883398  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         0.000000   4.334118   1.883398  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             Mn       0.000000   0.000062   1.883398  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         0.000000   5.014614   4.987475  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         0.000000   1.205401   4.987475  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             Mn       0.000000   3.109816   4.987475  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             Mn       1.428129   0.000027   4.987475  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         1.428129   3.109734   3.767387  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         1.428129   0.000241   3.114269  0  0
>>>              0
>>>             O         1.428129   3.109734   6.207560
>>>             O         1.428129   0.000241   6.860698
>>>             Mn       1.428129   3.109896   8.091569
>>>             O         0.000000   1.885646   8.091569
>>>             O         0.000000   4.334118   8.091569
>>>             Mn       0.000000   0.000062   8.091569
>>>             K_POINTS (automatic)
>>>               5 5 1 0 0 0
>>>
>>>             Your comments and suggestion is much
>>>             appreciated.Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>             Best Regards,
>>>             Ben Liew
>>>             Ph.D Student
>>>             Fuel Cell Institute,
>>>             The National University of Malaysia,
>>>             43600 Bangi,
>>>             Selangor, Malaysia.
>>>             Contact no. : +6016 552 0878
>>>             Email           : liewkienben at gmail.com
>>>
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