[Pw_forum] Convergence of relax of slab calculation

Mahya Zare mahyazare68 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 6 18:28:51 CEST 2015


I want electronic and optical properties of cerium oxide do I check my
inputs to check the correct sheet is Nano?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Ari P Seitsonen <Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi>
wrote:

>
> Dear Ben Liew,
>
>   If one is lucky, the system might converge to the right magnetic ground
> state with a "random guess". Yet if the system has several local minima, or
> the initial guess is very far from the true magnetic ordering, one might
> get very bad initial densities (total and spin density, or spin-up and
> spin-down densities), leading to difficulties in convergence and maybe even
> divergence. Yet-another-issue might be bad description of the electronic
> structure with the GGA's, I seem to remember that in the case of MnO2 the
> GGA gives reasonable results, even if the electronic band gap is naturally
> much too small (and using the smearing should help to get a convergence
> anyway).
>
>   I would myself start by trying a weakly ferromagnetic guess (for example
> 'starting_magnetization(1) = 0.2' and seeing if something happens. If it
> converges, or doesn't, I would then see if an anti-ferromagnetic solution
> might also make sense (two types of Mn atoms in cell, etc).
>
>     Greetings,
>
>        apsi
>
>
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>   Ari Paavo Seitsonen / Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi / http://www.iki.fi/~apsi/
>   Ecole Normale Supérieure (ENS), Département de Chimie, Paris
>   Mobile (F) : +33 789 37 24 25    (CH) : +41 79 71 90 935
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, ben liew wrote:
>
> Dear Bahadir,
>> Thanks for your comments. I will try using a lower mixing_beta and change
>> the mixing_mode='local-TF'.
>>
>> Dear Ari Paavo Seitsonen,
>>
>> Thanks. I have no knowledge on the magnetism of my system. How could I
>> know
>> what value of starting_magnetization that I should use in my slab
>> calculation? Does the starting_magnetization affect the convergence of my
>> calculation?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ben Liew
>> Ph.D Student
>> Fuel Cell Institute,
>> The National University of Malaysia,
>> 43600 Bangi,
>> Selangor, Malaysia.
>> Contact no. : +6016 552 0878
>> Email           : liewkienben at gmail.com
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Bahadır salmankurt <bsalmankurt at gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>       Dear Ari P Seitsonen,
>> I didnt know that mixing_mode='local-TF' effect initial magnetic
>> moments. thanks for this. By the way, Do you know about e field
>> configuration? for example, for slab + molecule systems whose atomic
>> positions are in 0.5 and 0.65 along z direction , respectively, what
>> must values of the  emaxpos and eopreg be?
>> Bests
>> Bahadir
>>
>> 2015-08-05 10:59 GMT+03:00 Ari P Seitsonen <Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi>:
>>
>>       Dear Ben Liew,
>>
>>         Without looking at the structure itself, adding to the
>>       previous comment about the algorithm for mixing, you have
>>       not really given any initial magnetic moments even if you
>>       have 'nspin = 2': The 'starting_magnetization(1) = 0.0'
>>       does not give any preferential spin ordering. Do you know
>>       something about this, is the system expected to be
>>       ferromagnetic, antiferromagnetic, ...?
>>
>>         Tiny issues, I usually do the first calculation without
>>       the surface dipole as it makes the convergence always a
>>       bit trickier; and your
>>       'B ~= 2 * A', but you give the same number of k points in
>>       both directions. (I usually tend to use smearing schemes
>>       where the occupations are guaranteed to be in the physical
>>       range of [0:1], but this is just a personal preference and
>>       should thus be ignored)
>>
>>           Greetings,
>>
>>              apsi
>>
>>
>> -=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*=-=*
>>       =-
>>         Ari Paavo Seitsonen / Ari.P.Seitsonen at iki.fi /
>>       http://www.iki.fi/~apsi/
>>         Ecole Normale Supérieure (ENS), Département de Chimie,
>>       Paris
>>         Mobile (F) : +33 789 37 24 25    (CH) : +41 79 71 90 935
>>
>>
>>       On Wed, 5 Aug 2015, ben liew wrote:
>>
>>             Dear PWSCF users,
>>
>>             Hi, I am a new user of Pwscf. I am working on
>>             slab calculation for pyrolusite MnO2 (110)
>>             surface with 3 atomic layers calculation and
>>             fixed bottom 2 layers and only top atomic
>>             layer is allowed to be relaxed. I have also
>>             include the dipole correction for the
>>             calculation to counteract with the interaction
>>             between slabs. However, my calculation doesn't
>>             seems to be converged as the scf accuracy is
>>             not decreasing over each iteration. Below is
>>             the estimated scf accuracy after hundreds of
>>             iterations, it is not converging
>>
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             373.64728976 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             106.52177156 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>              96.97567125 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             207.03807187 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             132.53045831 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>              77.19101827 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             112.41885075 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>              93.27430429 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             116.68049786 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             587.09711027 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             374.45312501 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             106.89811469 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>              96.84898888 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             207.83006869 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             132.74588293 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>              77.09445200 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             112.41688597 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>              93.57796273 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             116.25663912 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             587.39968959 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             374.91438307 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>             106.71641516 Ry
>>                  estimated scf accuracy    <
>>              96.75392736 Ry
>>
>>             I have include my input file as followed. Can
>>             anyone tell me is that any problem with my
>>             input file?
>>
>>              &control
>>                 calculation = 'relax'
>>                 tstress=.true.
>>                 tprnfor=.true.
>>
>>             pseudo_dir='/home/ben/Downloads/espresso-5.1.2/pseudo'
>>                 outdir='./vc3'
>>                 prefix='pyrolusite'
>>                 tefield=.true.
>>                 dipfield=.true.
>>              /
>>              &system
>>                 ibrav=8,
>>                 A=2.8563, B=6.2199, C=20.0
>>                 nat=18, ntyp=2,
>>                 starting_magnetization(1)=0.0
>>                 nspin=2
>>                 ecutwfc=37.0
>>                 ecutrho=250.0
>>                 occupations='smearing'
>>                 smearing='m-v'
>>                 degauss=0.01
>>                 edir=3
>>                 emaxpos=0.5
>>                 eopreg=0.1
>>                 eamp=0.001
>>              /
>>              &electrons
>>                 electron_maxstep=500
>>                 conv_thr=1.0d-6
>>                 mixing_beta=0.7
>>              /
>>              &ions
>>                 ion_dynamics='bfgs'
>>             /
>>             ATOMIC_SPECIES
>>               Mn 54.9380  Mn.pbe-spn-kjpaw_psl.0.3.1.UPF
>>               O  15.9994  O.pbe-kjpaw.UPF
>>             ATOMIC_POSITIONS (angstrom)
>>             O         1.428129   3.109734   0.000000  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         1.428129   0.000241   0.652526  0  0
>>              0
>>             Mn       1.428129   3.109896   1.883398  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         0.000000   1.885646   1.883398  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         0.000000   4.334118   1.883398  0  0
>>              0
>>             Mn       0.000000   0.000062   1.883398  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         0.000000   5.014614   4.987475  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         0.000000   1.205401   4.987475  0  0
>>              0
>>             Mn       0.000000   3.109816   4.987475  0  0
>>              0
>>             Mn       1.428129   0.000027   4.987475  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         1.428129   3.109734   3.767387  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         1.428129   0.000241   3.114269  0  0
>>              0
>>             O         1.428129   3.109734   6.207560
>>             O         1.428129   0.000241   6.860698
>>             Mn       1.428129   3.109896   8.091569
>>             O         0.000000   1.885646   8.091569
>>             O         0.000000   4.334118   8.091569
>>             Mn       0.000000   0.000062   8.091569
>>             K_POINTS (automatic)
>>               5 5 1 0 0 0
>>
>>             Your comments and suggestion is much
>>             appreciated.Thank you.
>>
>>
>>             Best Regards,
>>             Ben Liew
>>             Ph.D Student
>>             Fuel Cell Institute,
>>             The National University of Malaysia,
>>             43600 Bangi,
>>             Selangor, Malaysia.
>>             Contact no. : +6016 552 0878
>>             Email           : liewkienben at gmail.com
>>
>>
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