[Wannier] Question about final spreads

lan haiping lanhaiping at gmail.com
Tue Dec 19 03:54:14 CET 2006


Dear Nicola,

 Thank you.
I do want to repeat Prof  Postermak's works on tio2.
Last night, i also tried to change projection functions for  rutile tio2.
Indeed, i also found there
are 2 more minimum spreads founded with different stating projection
functions.

For rutile case, when i started with s/px/py/pz on O sites, i obtained total
spreads  of 14.919.  while changing projection functions to sp2/pz on O
sites,  i obtained total spreads of 14.4672.  But wannier function centers
can both be classified into 4 groups.

Regards,

Hai-Ping



On 12/18/06, Nicola Marzari <marzari at mit.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Hai-Ping,
>
>
> I believe Michel Posternak has published a paper on Ti02 Wannier
> functions. It would be interesting to compare your results to his.
>
> Our consensus was that the localization functional can display
> minima that are not meaningful - usually marked by the fact that the
> MLWFs do not look localized, or symmetric, and especially that they are
> not real-valued, but are complex-valued. These incorrect minima are
> somewhat connected to the fact that there are few points in the BZ where
> a smooth continuous choice of phase factors was not achieved.
>
> There are cases when more than one good minimum can exist - the first
> one that comes to my mind is benzene, where you can have two equivalent
> choices for the location of the three double bonds on the aromatic ring.
>
> It could be that yours is another case - there is more that one
> meanigful minimum - and, the notion of "meaningful minimum" is rather
> heuristic.
>
> Let us know what you find,
>
>                        nicola
>
>
>
>
> lan haiping wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I came to confusion about final results of wannierise procedure.
> >  I am trying to analyse anatase tio2 wannier function and  born charge
> > with wannier90.x.
> > I performed 2 calculations with 2 different projection functions sets,
> > other settings are same. Both reached convergenc (error deltas for total
> > Omega are about 1E-10). But the total spreads and wannier centers are
> > quite different.
> > For my first calculation, i just start with sp2 and pz  functions at O
> > sites, the total spreads finally obtained is 14.397.
> > While for the second calculation, the projetion functions are s/px/py/pz
> > functions at O sites,  the total spreads finally obtained is then
> > 15.2170.
> >
> > The wannier functions of second calculation could be classed into 4
> > groups by spreads , while the conclusion is not hold for the fist
> > calculation ( the wannier functions are then classed into 8 groups ).
> >
> > According to MV paper, the MLWFs reflect structures'  symmetry by
> > spreads. So, Both 2 calculations are not correct.
> >
> > Would you please give me some comments ?
> > And input files are below :
> >
> > *num_wann = 16
> > num_iter = 2000
> > guiding_centres = T
> > exclude_bands = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 25 26 27 28 29 30
> > begin projections
> > O : sp2
> > O : pz
> > end projections
> > begin atoms_cart
> > Ti       0.000000000   -0.000000000   0.000000000
> > Ti       0.000000000   1.892500000   2.378500000
> > O        0.000000000   0.000000000   1.979863400
> > O        0.000000000   -0.000000000   7.534136600
> > O        0.000000000   1.892500000    4.358363400
> > O        0.000000000   1.892500000   0.398636600
> > end atoms_cart*
> >
> > *begin unit_cell_cart
> > Ang
> >    1.8925  -1.8925  4.757
> >    1.8925   1.8925  4.757
> >   -1.8925  -1.8925  4.757
> > end unit_cell_cart
> > mp_grid :  6 6 6
> > begin kpoints
> > ......
> > end kpoints*
> >
> > two final spreads and wannier centers are attached.
> >
> > *Regards*
> >
> > Hai-Ping
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Hai-Ping Lan
> > Department of Electronics ,
> > Peking University , Bejing, 100871
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >  Final State
> >  WF centre and spread    1  ( -0.057359,  0.368438,  2.144012 )
> 0.81913203
> >  WF centre and spread    2  ( -0.057359, -0.368438,  2.144012 )
> 0.81913201
> >  WF centre and spread    3  (   0.207447,  0.000000,  1.889906 )
> 1.06292459
> >  WF centre and spread    4  ( -0.197679,  0.225730,  7.480939 )
> 0.95045581
> >  WF centre and spread    5  ( -0.197683, -0.225729,  7.480937 )
> 0.95045348
> >  WF centre and spread    6  (  0.383935,  0.000000,  7.384053 )
> 0.82485652
> >  WF centre and spread    7  ( -0.197693,  2.118226,  4.411569 )
> 0.95044526
> >  WF centre and spread    8  ( -0.197669 ,  1.666767,  4.411555 )
> 0.95046140
> >  WF centre and spread    9  (  0.383935,  1.892503,  4.508447 )
> 0.82485530
> >  WF centre and spread   10  ( -0.057359,  2.260938,  0.234488 )
> 0.81913205
> >  WF centre and spread   11  ( - 0.057359,  1.524062,  0.234488 )
> 0.81913192
> >  WF centre and spread   12  (  0.207447,  1.892500,  0.488594 )
> 1.06292460
> >  WF centre and spread   13  ( -0.090800,  0.000000,  1.575406 )
> 0.88848488
> >  WF centre and spread   14  (  0.012349,  0.000000,  7.957177 )
> 0.88317336
> >  WF centre and spread   15  (  0.012349,  1.892503,  3.935322 )
> 0.88317159
> >  WF centre and spread   16  ( -0.090800 ,  1.892500,  0.803094 )
> 0.88848495
> >  Sum of centres and spreads (  0.005703, 15.139999, 57.083998 )
> 14.39721976
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> >  Final State
> >   WF centre and spread    1  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  1.913455 )
> 1.16247952
> >   WF centre and spread    2  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  7.509543 )
> 1.20049037
> >   WF centre and spread    3  (   0.000000,  1.892500,  4.382956 )
> 1.20048903
> >   WF centre and spread    4  (  0.000000,  1.892500,  0.465045 )
> 1.16247952
> >   WF centre and spread    5  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  2.004457 )
> 1.20048828
> >   WF centre and spread    6  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  7.600545 )
> 1.16248168
> >   WF centre and spread    7  (  0.000000,  1.892500,  4.291955 )
> 1.16248025
> >   WF centre and spread    8  (  0.000000 ,  1.892497,  0.374043 )
> 1.20048827
> >   WF centre and spread    9  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  1.522196 )
> 0.75151445
> >   WF centre and spread   10  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  7.991803 )
> 0.75151691
> >   WF centre and spread   11  (   0.000000,  1.892500,  3.900696 )
> 0.75151511
> >   WF centre and spread   12  (  0.000000,  1.892501,  0.856304 )
> 0.75151453
> >   WF centre and spread   13  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  2.312422 )
> 0.68819033
> >   WF centre and spread   14  (  0.000000,  0.000000,  7.201578 )
> 0.68819219
> >   WF centre and spread   15  (  0.000000,  1.892500,  4.690922 )
> 0.68819114
> >   WF centre and spread   16  (  0.000000 ,  1.892502,  0.066078 )
> 0.68819026
> >   Sum of centres and spreads (  0.000000, 15.139999, 57.083998 )
> 15.21070184
>
>
> --
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-- 
Hai-Ping Lan
Department of Electronics ,
Peking University , Bejing, 100871
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