[QE-users] phonon linewidth calculation

Ivan Dario Arellano Ramirez arellano at utp.edu.co
Mon Jun 9 11:05:00 CEST 2025


Dear Lorenzo,

I tried the settings you suggested:

 nmix_ph=10
 alpha_mix=.25

and conv_thr =  1.0d-12 for scf calculation

however, the phonon calculation using ph.x still fails to converge.

I then increased the  nmix_ph up to 20 and decreased the alpha_mix up to .1
but the issue persists.

El sáb, 7 jun 2025 a las 7:14, Lorenzo Paulatto (<lorenzo.paulatto at cnrs.fr>)
escribió:

> Hhelo,
>
> increase nmix_ph and reduce alpha_mix, in a difficult case recently I have
> used:
>
>   nmix_ph=10
>  alpha_mix=.25
>
> Also, the convergence of the scf process in pw.x should be tighter,
> something like
>     conv_thr =  1.0d-12
>
> Because the total energy is variational, but the phonons are not, they
> converge much slower with this threshold.
>
> hth
>
>
>
> On 06/06/2025 21:48, Ivan Dario Arellano Ramirez wrote:
>
> I QE users
>
> I want to calculate the phonon linewidth for InN. I am following two
> tutorials. However, in both cases, I encounter the same issue: no
> convergence when using the ph.x module.
>
> Pert. #  1: Fermi energy shift (Ry) =    -5.5393E+02     0.0000E+00
>
>       iter # 150 total cpu time : 13815.8 secs   av.it.:   5.3
>       thresh= 4.679E-04 alpha_mix =  0.700 |ddv_scf|^2 =  4.318E-06
>
>      End of self-consistent calculation
>
>      No convergence has been achieved
>
>
> This is an overview of the two approaches I followed:
>
> 1) perform very dense scf calculation with la2F=.true. in &systems
> (Likely, I am exceeding the maximum of 40000 k points)
> 2) normal scf on coarser k-mesh
> 3) phonon calculation using ph.x
> 4) Inverse Fourier transform of dynamical matrix and the phonon linewidth
> using q2r.x
> 5) Fourier transform to obtain dynamical matrix and the phonon linewidth
> using matdyn.x
>
> The other tutorial proposed an initial scf calculation followed by an nscf
> calculation with la2F=.true. the rest of steps are the same.
>
> Here are all the inputs.
>
> Any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> 1) very dense k-mesh scf
>
> &control
>     calculation = 'scf'
>     restart_mode='from_scratch',
>     prefix='inn_ep',
>     tstress = .true.
>     tprnfor = .true.
>     pseudo_dir = '/home/pps/pbe.0.3.1/PSEUDOPOTENTIALS/',
>     outdir='./tmp'
>     verbosity = 'high'
>     etot_conv_thr = 1.d-6
>     forc_conv_thr = 1.d-5
> /
> &system
>     ibrav = 0,
>     nat=  4,
>     ntyp= 2,
>     ecutwfc = 90,
>     ecutrho = 900,
>     occupations='smearing',
>     smearing='m-v',
>     degauss=0.02,
>     la2F = .true.
> /
> &electrons
>     conv_thr =  1.0d-8
>     electron_maxstep = 200,
>     mixing_mode = 'plain'
>     mixing_beta = 0.3D0
>     diagonalization  = 'david'
>  /
> ATOMIC_SPECIES
> In   114.818    In.pbe-dn-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF
> N   14.007      N.pbe-n-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF
> CELL_PARAMETERS angstrom
>    1.793358573  -3.106188164   0.000000000
>    1.793358573   3.106188164   0.000000000
>    0.000000000   0.000000000   5.799337066
>
> ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal
> In            0.3333330000        0.6666670000       -0.0019331848
> In            0.6666670000        0.3333330000        0.4980668152
> N             0.3333330000        0.6666670000        0.3767331848
> N             0.6666670000        0.3333330000        0.8767331848
> K_POINTS automatic
> 45 45 36 0 0 0
>
> 2) normal scf
>
> &control
>     calculation = 'scf'
>     restart_mode='from_scratch',
>     prefix='inn_ep',
>     tstress = .true.
>     tprnfor = .true.
>     pseudo_dir = '/home/pps/pbe.0.3.1/PSEUDOPOTENTIALS/',
>     outdir='./tmp'
>     verbosity = 'high'
>     etot_conv_thr = 1.d-6
>     forc_conv_thr = 1.d-5
> /
> &system
>     ibrav = 0,
>     nat=  4,
>     ntyp= 2,
>     ecutwfc = 90,
>     ecutrho = 900,
>     occupations='smearing',
>     smearing='m-v',
>     degauss=0.02,
> /
> &electrons
>     conv_thr =  1.0d-8
>     electron_maxstep = 200,
>     mixing_mode = 'plain'
>     mixing_beta = 0.3D0
>     diagonalization  = 'david'
>  /
> ATOMIC_SPECIES
> In   114.818    In.pbe-dn-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF
> N   14.007      N.pbe-n-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF
> CELL_PARAMETERS angstrom
>    1.793358573  -3.106188164   0.000000000
>    1.793358573   3.106188164   0.000000000
>    0.000000000   0.000000000   5.799337066
>
> ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal
> In            0.3333330000        0.6666670000       -0.0019331848
> In            0.6666670000        0.3333330000        0.4980668152
> N             0.3333330000        0.6666670000        0.3767331848
> N             0.6666670000        0.3333330000        0.8767331848
> K_POINTS automatic
> 15 15 12 0 0 0
>
> 3) phonon calculation
>
> Phonons of InN at G!=0
> &inputph
>  tr2_ph = 1.0d-14,
>  ldisp = .true.,
>  prefix = 'inn_ep',
>  recover = .true.
>  fildyn = 'inn-ph.dyn',
>  fildvscf = 'inndv'
>  nq1 = 5,
>  nq2 = 5,
>  nq3 = 3,
>  electron_phonon = 'interpolated'
>  el_ph_nsigma = 10
>  el_ph_sigma = 0.02
>  amass(1) = 114.818,
>  amass(2) = 14.007,
>  outdir =  './tmp'
>  /
>
>  4) Inverse Fourier Transform
>
> &INPUT
>  fildyn = 'inn-ph.dyn',
>  zasr = 'crystal',
>  flfrc =  'inn-ph.fc',
>  la2F = .true.
>  /
>
> 5) Fourier Transform
>
> &input
>  asr = 'crystal',
>  flfrc = 'inn-ph.fc',
>  flfrq = 'inn.band.freq'
>  flvec = 'inn.band.modes'
>  amass(1) = 114.818,
>  amass(2) = 14.007,
>  q_in_band_form = .true.
>  la2F = .true.
>  /
> 8
>    0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.0000000000  40  ! Gamma
>    0.5000000000     0.0000000000     0.0000000000  25  ! M
>    0.3333333333     0.3333333333     0.0000000000  40  ! K
>    0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.0000000000  25  ! Gamma
>    0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.5000000000  40  ! A
>    0.5000000000     0.0000000000     0.5000000000  25  ! L
>    0.3333333333     0.3333333333     0.5000000000  40  ! H
>    0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.5000000000  1   ! A
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
>
> Iván Darío Arellano Ramírez
>
> Profesor Titular Programa de Ingeniería Física
>
> Director Grupo de Investigación en Modelado y Simulación Computacional
>
> Universidad Tecnológica de Pereira
>
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Profesor Titular Programa de Ingeniería Física

Director Grupo de Investigación en Modelado y Simulación Computacional

Universidad Tecnológica de Pereira

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