[QE-users] kpoints.x

Dr. Pabitra Mandal pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in
Tue Aug 8 16:18:52 CEST 2023


Many many thanks to Vahid Askarpour, ANAND JHA, Paolo Giannozzi..
Your reply helps me alot.
Regards..

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 12:43 AM Vahid Askarpour <vh261281 at dal.ca> wrote:

> You should remove the first, 5th and 6th columns. Then add a new column
> for weights, which is 2/64. The factor 2 accounts for spin.
>
> The unit will be tpiba.
>
> I would strongly suggest that you discover these for yourself and not take
> what you are told for granted. This is how:
>
> Run a scf calculation for a 4 4 4 1 1 1 K-grid and specify nosym=.true. in
> that file. At the beginning of the output, you will get a list of the 64
> k-points in both crystal and cartesian. The weights are also included. See
> if this output agrees with what you know so far.
>
> Cheers,
> Vahid
>
> Vahid Askarpour
> Department of Physics
> Dalhousie University,
> Halifax, NS
> CANADA
>
> On Aug 7, 2023, at 3:54 PM, Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>
> CAUTION: The Sender of this email is not from within Dalhousie.
> Thanks to Vahid Askarpour and Anand Jha. Your reply provides me with a
> better understanding.
> I have two more queries:
> 1. Now, to use the kpoint mesh in the scf calculation, can I remove the
> 5th and 6th column and add a new column with value 1/64 (as there are 64
> kpoints, equal wedge of 1/64 to each kpoint for normalization to unity)?
> 2. Will the unit be 'tpiba', i.e., cartesian coordinates? Otherwise the
> value being more than unity of some of the components of a few kpoints can
> not be explained (If I am not wrong).
> Regards...
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:21 PM Vahid Askarpour <vh261281 at dal.ca> wrote:
>
>> I believe the kpoints.x output coordinates are cartesian not crystal. The
>> 5th column shows the multiplicity of that k-point which is in the wedge. It
>> tells you how many points in the full BZ are equivalent to this wedge
>> point. So
>>
>>  1  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   2.00
>>
>> Means that this point in the wedge has another equivalent point in the BZ
>> and that is
>>
>>  64  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   1
>>
>> The 1 in the last column means that point 64 is equivalent to point 1.
>> Here the 5th column is zero suggesting that this point is not in the wedge.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Vahid
>>
>> Vahid Askarpour
>> Department of Physics
>> Dalhousie University,
>> Halifax, NS
>> CANADA
>>
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
>> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>>
>> CAUTION: The Sender of this email is not from within Dalhousie.
>> Also, I guess there is a problem in the generated output file from
>> kpoints.x. Because, there are entries whose absolute values are more than
>> one, viz.,
>> -1.1250000, -1.375000.
>> I can not bi;eave the values generated by kpoints.x.
>> plz help.
>> Also, the output file I got from kpoints.x, there are two more columns
>> except for coordinate points.  What is the meaning of them?
>> Can I copy paste the whole file for in 'scf' calculation or need to do
>> some modification?
>> plz help. got stuck without the answers..
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:38 PM Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
>> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>>
>>> It would be helpful if you tell me where to find the info file for
>>> kpoint.x.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:04 PM Omar Ashour <ashour at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dr. Mandal,
>>>>
>>>> I do not think you should be using anything blindly in your
>>>> calculations. The `info` file produced by `kpoints.x` should answer your
>>>> query.
>>>>
>>>> Omar A. Ashour
>>>> UC Berkeley Physics
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 1:10 AM Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
>>>> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sir,
>>>>> Please let me know
>>>>> i. whether I can blindly use the following output of kpoints.x in the
>>>>> 'scf' calculation prior to 'epsilon.x' calculation and
>>>>> ii. what do the last and last but one column mean in the following
>>>>> output of kpoints.x
>>>>>
>>>>> 64
>>>>>     1  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   2.00
>>>>>     2  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   6.00
>>>>>     3  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>     4  -0.8750000 -0.6250000  0.8750000   6.00
>>>>>     5   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   2
>>>>>     6  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>     7  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000  12.00
>>>>>     8  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  1.1250000  12.00
>>>>>     9   0.3750000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   3
>>>>>    10   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   7
>>>>>    11  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   6.00
>>>>>    12  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>    13   0.6250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   4
>>>>>    14   0.3750000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>    15   0.1250000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>    16  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>>    17  -0.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>>    18  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>>    19  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>>    20  -1.1250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>>    21  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>>    22  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   2.00
>>>>>    23  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>    24  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>>    25   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>>    26  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  23
>>>>>    27  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00  23
>>>>>    28  -0.6250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    29   0.3750000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>>    30   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>>    31  -0.1250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    32  -0.3750000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>    33  -0.6250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>    34  -0.8750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    35  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>    36  -1.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>    37  -0.3750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    38  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00  23
>>>>>    39  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>>    40  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    41  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>    42  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>>    43  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  22
>>>>>    44  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>>    45   0.1250000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>    46  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    47  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>>    48  -0.6250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>>    49  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>>    50  -1.1250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>    51  -1.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>    52  -1.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>>    53  -0.6250000  1.1250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>    54  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>    55  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    56  -1.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>    57  -0.3750000  1.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>    58  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>    59  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   6
>>>>>    60  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>>    61  -0.1250000  1.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>>    62  -0.3750000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>    63  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>>    64  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   1
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 7:19 PM ANAND JHA <anandkj21 at iitk.ac.in> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crystal units
>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 10:29, Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
>>>>>> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> I am generating the kpoint mesh for 'epsilon.x' calculation using
>>>>>>> 'kpoints.x' and getting a list of k points. Here I am giving the
>>>>>>> interactive command lines for
>>>>>>> kpoints.x below:
>>>>>>>      bravais lattice  >> 2
>>>>>>>      filout [mesh_k]  >>
>>>>>>>      mesh: n1 n2 n3   >> 4 4 4
>>>>>>>      mesh: k1 k2 k3 (0 no shift, 1 shifted) >> 1 1 1
>>>>>>>      write all k? [f] >> y
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The output I get is following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 64
>>>>>>>     1  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   2.00
>>>>>>>     2  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   6.00
>>>>>>>     3  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>>>     4  -0.8750000 -0.6250000  0.8750000   6.00
>>>>>>>     5   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   2
>>>>>>>     6  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>>>     7  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000  12.00
>>>>>>>     8  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  1.1250000  12.00
>>>>>>>     9   0.3750000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   3
>>>>>>>    10   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    11  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   6.00
>>>>>>>    12  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    13   0.6250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   4
>>>>>>>    14   0.3750000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    15   0.1250000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    16  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>>    17  -0.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>>    18  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>>>>    19  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    20  -1.1250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    21  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>>>>    22  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   2.00
>>>>>>>    23  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>>>    24  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>>>>    25   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    26  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  23
>>>>>>>    27  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00  23
>>>>>>>    28  -0.6250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    29   0.3750000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    30   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>>>>    31  -0.1250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    32  -0.3750000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>>    33  -0.6250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>>    34  -0.8750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    35  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>>>    36  -1.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    37  -0.3750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    38  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00  23
>>>>>>>    39  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>>>>    40  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    41  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>>>    42  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>>>>    43  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  22
>>>>>>>    44  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>>>>    45   0.1250000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    46  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    47  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>>>>    48  -0.6250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>>    49  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>>    50  -1.1250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    51  -1.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    52  -1.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>>    53  -0.6250000  1.1250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    54  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>>>    55  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    56  -1.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>>    57  -0.3750000  1.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>>    58  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>>    59  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   6
>>>>>>>    60  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>>    61  -0.1250000  1.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>>    62  -0.3750000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>>    63  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>>    64  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My query is,
>>>>>>> 1. what is the unit (crystal or crystal_b or....) of the obtained
>>>>>>> kpoints obtained above?
>>>>>>> 2. What does the fifth column mean?
>>>>>>> 2. Also, please give me a brief explanation for query(1), if
>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dr. Pabitra Mandal
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