[QE-users] kpoints.x

Dr. Pabitra Mandal pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in
Mon Aug 7 20:54:52 CEST 2023


Thanks to Vahid Askarpour and Anand Jha. Your reply provides me with a
better understanding.
I have two more queries:
1. Now, to use the kpoint mesh in the scf calculation, can I remove the 5th
and 6th column and add a new column with value 1/64 (as there are 64
kpoints, equal wedge of 1/64 to each kpoint for normalization to unity)?
2. Will the unit be 'tpiba', i.e., cartesian coordinates? Otherwise the
value being more than unity of some of the components of a few kpoints can
not be explained (If I am not wrong).
Regards...

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:21 PM Vahid Askarpour <vh261281 at dal.ca> wrote:

> I believe the kpoints.x output coordinates are cartesian not crystal. The
> 5th column shows the multiplicity of that k-point which is in the wedge. It
> tells you how many points in the full BZ are equivalent to this wedge
> point. So
>
>  1  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   2.00
>
> Means that this point in the wedge has another equivalent point in the BZ
> and that is
>
>  64  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   1
>
> The 1 in the last column means that point 64 is equivalent to point 1.
> Here the 5th column is zero suggesting that this point is not in the wedge.
>
> Cheers,
> Vahid
>
> Vahid Askarpour
> Department of Physics
> Dalhousie University,
> Halifax, NS
> CANADA
>
>
> On Aug 7, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>
> CAUTION: The Sender of this email is not from within Dalhousie.
> Also, I guess there is a problem in the generated output file from
> kpoints.x. Because, there are entries whose absolute values are more than
> one, viz.,
> -1.1250000, -1.375000.
> I can not bi;eave the values generated by kpoints.x.
> plz help.
> Also, the output file I got from kpoints.x, there are two more columns
> except for coordinate points.  What is the meaning of them?
> Can I copy paste the whole file for in 'scf' calculation or need to do
> some modification?
> plz help. got stuck without the answers..
>
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 6:38 PM Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>
>> It would be helpful if you tell me where to find the info file for
>> kpoint.x.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 2:04 PM Omar Ashour <ashour at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Dr. Mandal,
>>>
>>> I do not think you should be using anything blindly in your
>>> calculations. The `info` file produced by `kpoints.x` should answer your
>>> query.
>>>
>>> Omar A. Ashour
>>> UC Berkeley Physics
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 1:10 AM Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
>>> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sir,
>>>> Please let me know
>>>> i. whether I can blindly use the following output of kpoints.x in the
>>>> 'scf' calculation prior to 'epsilon.x' calculation and
>>>> ii. what do the last and last but one column mean in the following
>>>> output of kpoints.x
>>>>
>>>> 64
>>>>     1  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   2.00
>>>>     2  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   6.00
>>>>     3  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>     4  -0.8750000 -0.6250000  0.8750000   6.00
>>>>     5   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   2
>>>>     6  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>     7  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000  12.00
>>>>     8  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  1.1250000  12.00
>>>>     9   0.3750000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   3
>>>>    10   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   7
>>>>    11  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   6.00
>>>>    12  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>    13   0.6250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   4
>>>>    14   0.3750000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>    15   0.1250000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>    16  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>    17  -0.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>    18  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>    19  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>    20  -1.1250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>    21  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>    22  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   2.00
>>>>    23  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>    24  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>    25   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>    26  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  23
>>>>    27  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00  23
>>>>    28  -0.6250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>    29   0.3750000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>    30   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>    31  -0.1250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>    32  -0.3750000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>    33  -0.6250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>    34  -0.8750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>    35  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>    36  -1.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>    37  -0.3750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>    38  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00  23
>>>>    39  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>    40  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>    41  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>    42  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>    43  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  22
>>>>    44  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>    45   0.1250000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>    46  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>    47  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>    48  -0.6250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>    49  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>    50  -1.1250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>    51  -1.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>    52  -1.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>    53  -0.6250000  1.1250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>    54  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>    55  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>    56  -1.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>    57  -0.3750000  1.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>    58  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>    59  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   6
>>>>    60  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>    61  -0.1250000  1.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>    62  -0.3750000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>    63  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>    64  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   1
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 7:19 PM ANAND JHA <anandkj21 at iitk.ac.in> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Crystal units
>>>>> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 10:29, Dr. Pabitra Mandal <
>>>>> pabitram.sosci at wbnsou.ac.in> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> I am generating the kpoint mesh for 'epsilon.x' calculation using
>>>>>> 'kpoints.x' and getting a list of k points. Here I am giving the
>>>>>> interactive command lines for
>>>>>> kpoints.x below:
>>>>>>      bravais lattice  >> 2
>>>>>>      filout [mesh_k]  >>
>>>>>>      mesh: n1 n2 n3   >> 4 4 4
>>>>>>      mesh: k1 k2 k3 (0 no shift, 1 shifted) >> 1 1 1
>>>>>>      write all k? [f] >> y
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The output I get is following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 64
>>>>>>     1  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   2.00
>>>>>>     2  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   6.00
>>>>>>     3  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>>     4  -0.8750000 -0.6250000  0.8750000   6.00
>>>>>>     5   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   2
>>>>>>     6  -0.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>>     7  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000  12.00
>>>>>>     8  -0.6250000 -0.3750000  1.1250000  12.00
>>>>>>     9   0.3750000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   3
>>>>>>    10   0.1250000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    11  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   6.00
>>>>>>    12  -0.3750000 -0.1250000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    13   0.6250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   4
>>>>>>    14   0.3750000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    15   0.1250000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    16  -0.1250000  0.1250000  1.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>    17  -0.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>    18  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>>>    19  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    20  -1.1250000 -0.3750000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    21  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   6
>>>>>>    22  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   2.00
>>>>>>    23  -0.6250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   6.00
>>>>>>    24  -0.8750000 -0.1250000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>>>    25   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    26  -0.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  23
>>>>>>    27  -0.3750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00  23
>>>>>>    28  -0.6250000  0.1250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    29   0.3750000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    30   0.1250000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00  11
>>>>>>    31  -0.1250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    32  -0.3750000  0.3750000  1.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>    33  -0.6250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>    34  -0.8750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    35  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>>    36  -1.3750000 -0.1250000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    37  -0.3750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    38  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00  23
>>>>>>    39  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>>>    40  -1.1250000  0.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    41  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>>    42  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00  23
>>>>>>    43  -0.6250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00  22
>>>>>>    44  -0.8750000  0.3750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>>>    45   0.1250000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    46  -0.1250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    47  -0.3750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   6
>>>>>>    48  -0.6250000  0.6250000  1.1250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>    49  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.6250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>    50  -1.1250000  0.6250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    51  -1.3750000  0.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    52  -1.6250000  0.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>    53  -0.6250000  1.1250000 -0.3750000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    54  -0.8750000  0.8750000 -0.1250000   0.00  11
>>>>>>    55  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    56  -1.3750000  0.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>    57  -0.3750000  1.3750000 -0.1250000   0.00   8
>>>>>>    58  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.1250000   0.00   7
>>>>>>    59  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.3750000   0.00   6
>>>>>>    60  -1.1250000  0.6250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>    61  -0.1250000  1.6250000  0.1250000   0.00   4
>>>>>>    62  -0.3750000  1.3750000  0.3750000   0.00   3
>>>>>>    63  -0.6250000  1.1250000  0.6250000   0.00   2
>>>>>>    64  -0.8750000  0.8750000  0.8750000   0.00   1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My query is,
>>>>>> 1. what is the unit (crystal or crystal_b or....) of the obtained
>>>>>> kpoints obtained above?
>>>>>> 2. What does the fifth column mean?
>>>>>> 2. Also, please give me a brief explanation for query(1), if possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dr. Pabitra Mandal
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