[QE-users] Some inconsistency between QE-6.7MaX and current QE-7.1

Mahmoud Payami Shabestari mpayami at aeoi.org.ir
Thu Sep 22 21:03:17 CEST 2022


Dear Paolo,



Thank you so much for your comments.

Actually, to find some sense about the time needed to calculate force, I 
have performed scf calculations for just one iteration, but different 
numbers of atoms (4, 8, 12, 16, 32, 48, 64, 80, 96, 108) with more or less 
the sama number of k points in BZ. The supercells were generated from the 
QE-7.1/PW/example08 unitcell. The inputs and outputs are uploaded in:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12cWLR7PkMI1wolxgRLnOSCi4IhtnLmEO?usp=sharing



The results for low number of atoms seems to take reasonable times, but for 
larger ones the time to calculate force becomes larger than the time for 
just one iteration.

Do you see any un-normal behavior in force calculation routine?

Thank you very much for your comments.



Bests, Mahmoud



From: Paolo Giannozzi <paolo.giannozzi at uniud.it>
To: Mahmoud Payami Shabestari <mpayami at aeoi.org.ir>, Quantum ESPRESSO users 
Forum <users at lists.quantum-espresso.org>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 18:18:51 +0200
Subject: Re: [QE-users] Some inconsistency between QE-6.7MaX and current 
QE-7.1


Not sure what you mean exactly. As a rule of thumb, the calculation of
the Hubbard contribution to forces should take no more than 1/3 or 1/4,
likely much less than that, of the time needed for a scf calculation, at
least for the simple ("atomic") U projection.

Paolo

On 21/09/2022 19:31, Mahmoud Payami Shabestari via users wrote:
> Dear Paolo,
> Thank you so much for the comment on automatic parallelization.
> On the second issue, how can one estimate the execution time for force
> calculation as a function of number of Hubbard levels in a DFT+U
> calculation with ortho-atomic U_projection?
> Thank you in advance.
> Bests,
> Mahmoud
>
>     From: Paolo Giannozzi <paolo.giannozzi at uniud.it>
>     To: users at lists.quantum-espresso.org
>     Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 07:58:42 +0200
>     Subject: Re: [QE-users] Some inconsistency between QE-6.7MaX and
>     current QE-7.1
>     The optimization you are referring to is actually an automatic choice 
of
>     parallelization option, but it is not used if you explicitly specify 
the
>     parallelization options (e.g. with -nk N -nd M). For the original
>     problem: one has to see under which exact coonditions it happens
>
>     Paolo
>
>     On 20/09/2022 05:01, Mahmoud Payami Shabestari via users wrote:
>      > Dear QE Developers,
>      > Hi.
>      > Kindly, when I use the same scf input for QE-6.7MaX and QE-7.1, the
>      > results of forces on atoms are more or less similar but with a 
small
>      > difference. However, the calculated pressures are
>     SIGNIFICANTLY_DIFFERENT.
>      > Secondly, when the number of atoms is of order say 50, the
>     calculation
>      > of forces on atoms using QE-7.1 is VERY VERY time consuming.
>      > In the release note of QE7.1 one feature mentioned is an 
"automatic"
>      > optimizations for accelerating the calculations.
>      > Could it happen that in some cases instead of optimizations one
>      > encounters with deceleration?
>      > How can one disable this automatic optimization?
>      > Thank you in advance.
>      > With Best Regards,
>      > Mahmoud Payami
>      > NSTRI, AEOI, Tehran, Iran
>      > Email: mpayami at aeoi.org.ir <mailto:mpayami%40aeoi.org.ir>
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