[QE-users] Slow convergence

Nicola Marzari nicola.marzari at epfl.ch
Thu Mar 24 13:06:01 CET 2022



Thanks Paolo!

Max - you say you are using the pseudos from 
http://theossrv1.epfl.ch/Main/Pseudopotentials, but you are actually not.

There is a sentence at the beginning of that page, in  very large fonts, 
that that tells you what to use - and then there is a long list of other 
entries, in small fonts, labeled as "older material, kept for 
reference", not "thoroughly tested".

My personal advice on what it takes to do a semi decent calculation it's 
at this link:

http://theossrv1.epfl.ch/Main/SetupForQuantumESPRESSOCalculations

			nicola


On 24/03/2022 12:22, Paolo Giannozzi wrote:
> It seems to work (= to yield apparently sensible results) if 
> W.pbe-spn-rrkjus_psl.0.2.3.UPF is replaced by 
> W.pbe-spfn-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF (but not by W.pbe-spn-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF)
> 
> Paolo
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:30 AM Paolo Giannozzi <p.giannozzi at gmail.com 
> <mailto:p.giannozzi at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     The convergence is not "slow", it's non-existent. There is nothing
>     wrong in your input: self-consistency starts well. Note however what
>     happens at iteration 6: there is an abnormally large jump in the scf
>     error. The only reason I can think of is that one of the
>     pseudopotentials is bad (bad = has a ghost state) . Try to change
>     pseudopotentials, one at the time.
> 
>     Paolo
> 
>     On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 9:50 PM Максим Арсентьев
>     <ars21031960 at gmail.com <mailto:ars21031960 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Hello everyone. I am trying to perform a vc-relax run using the
>         pw.x code for tungsten niobate. I use ultrasoft pbe files from
>         http://theossrv1.epfl.ch/Main/Pseudopotentials
>         <http://theossrv1.epfl.ch/Main/Pseudopotentials> . The
>         convergence is slow. Is something wrong in my input file
> 
>         Best wishes,
>         Max
> 
> 
>           &control
>              prefix='NbWO',
>              calculation = 'vc-relax',
>              restart_mode = 'from_scratch'
>              pseudo_dir='/home/mxm2/Documents/internal_and_full_opt/NbWO',
>              outdir =
>         '/home/mxm2/Documents/internal_and_full_opt/NbWO/temp',
>              forc_conv_thr = 3.8d-4 ,
>              nstep = 99,
>              etot_conv_thr = 1.0d-4 ,
>           /
>           &system
>              ibrav=  0, nat= 122, ntyp= 3,
>              celldm(1)=1.889726,
>              ecutwfc = 35.0,
>              occupations ='smearing', smearing ='gaussian',
>              degauss=0.02,
>           /
>           &electrons
>              conv_thr = 1e-6,
>              mixing_beta=0.3,
>              electron_maxstep=500
>           /
>           &ions
>           /
>            &cell
>           /
>         ATOMIC_SPECIES
>         Nb   92.906    Nb.pbe-spn-rrkjus_psl.0.3.0.UPF
>         O    15.999     O.pbe-n-rrkjus_psl.0.1.UPF
>         W   183.84      W.pbe-spn-rrkjus_psl.0.2.3.UPF
>         ATOMIC_POSITIONS (crystal)
>         Nb 0.46384 0.37332 0.46914
>         Nb 0.53616 0.62668 0.46914
>         Nb 0.30402 0.28755 0.50016
>         Nb 0.69598 0.71245 0.50016
>         Nb 0.78727 0.194 0.99492
>         Nb 0.21272 0.806 0.99492
>         Nb 0.71678 0.94725 0.99154
>         Nb 0.28322 0.05275 0.99154
>         Nb 0.44538 0.78418 0.50708
>         Nb 0.55462 0.21582 0.50708
>         Nb 0.60646 0.87207 0.48962
>         Nb 0.39354 0.12793 0.48962
>         Nb 0.37259 0.89382 0.00976
>         Nb 0.62741 0.10618 0.00976
>         Nb 0.96384 0.87332 0.96914
>         Nb 0.03616 0.12668 0.96914
>         Nb 0.80402 0.78755 0.00016
>         Nb 0.19598 0.21245 0.00016
>         Nb 0.28728 0.694 0.49492
>         Nb 0.71273 0.306 0.49492
>         Nb 0.21678 0.44725 0.49154
>         Nb 0.78322 0.55275 0.49154
>         Nb 0.94538 0.28418 0.00708
>         Nb 0.05462 0.71582 0.00708
>         Nb 0.10646 0.37207 0.98962
>         Nb 0.89354 0.62793 0.98962
>         Nb 0.87259 0.39382 0.50976
>         Nb 0.12741 0.60618 0.50976
>         O 0.46597 0.3783 0.99454
>         O 0.53403 0.6217 0.99454
>         O 0.86959 0.03688 0.50851
>         O 0.13041 0.96312 0.50851
>         O 0.91584 0.95689 0.00346
>         O 0.08416 0.04311 0.00346
>         O 0.45097 0.58093 0.50343
>         O 0.54903 0.41907 0.50343
>         O 0.38249 0.32729 0.49949
>         O 0.61751 0.67271 0.49949
>         O 0.82643 0.11647 0.99726
>         O 0.17357 0.88353 0.99726
>         O 0.79094 0.992 0.99589
>         O 0.20906 0.008 0.99589
>         O 0.49061 0.70902 0.50312
>         O 0.50939 0.29098 0.50312
>         O 0.28502 0.27115 0.99848
>         O 0.71498 0.72885 0.99848
>         O 0.77143 0.21412 0.49854
>         O 0.22857 0.78588 0.49854
>         O 0.75631 0.86378 0.99729
>         O 0.24369 0.13622 0.99729
>         O 0.36389 0.74402 0.5024
>         O 0.63611 0.25598 0.5024
>         O 0.69451 0.93577 0.49434
>         O 0.30549 0.06423 0.49434
>         O 0.43555 0.80655 0.00484
>         O 0.56445 0.19345 0.00484
>         O 0.65356 0.79887 0.49582
>         O 0.34644 0.20113 0.49582
>         O 0.29982 0.84627 0.00333
>         O 0.70017 0.15373 0.00333
>         O 0.6236 0.89265 0.9933
>         O 0.3764 0.10735 0.9933
>         O 0.39318 0.87688 0.50597
>         O 0.60682 0.12312 0.50597
>         O 0.5611 0.96377 0.49359
>         O 0.4389 0.03623 0.49359
>         O 0.46397 0.939 0.00552
>         O 0.53603 0.061 0.00552
>         O 0.52684 0.83629 0.49854
>         O 0.47316 0.16371 0.49854
>         O 0.3369 0.9734 0.00109
>         O 0.6631 0.0266 0.00109
>         O 0.96597 0.8783 0.49454
>         O 0.03403 0.1217 0.49454
>         O 0.36959 0.53688 0.00851
>         O 0.63041 0.46312 0.00851
>         O 0.41584 0.45689 0.50345
>         O 0.58416 0.54311 0.50345
>         O 0.95097 0.08093 0.00343
>         O 0.04903 0.91907 0.00343
>         O 0.88249 0.82729 0.99949
>         O 0.11751 0.17271 0.99949
>         O 0.32643 0.61647 0.49726
>         O 0.67357 0.38353 0.49726
>         O 0.29094 0.492 0.49589
>         O 0.70906 0.508 0.49589
>         O 0.99061 0.20902 0.00312
>         O 0.00939 0.79098 0.00312
>         O 0.78502 0.77115 0.49848
>         O 0.21498 0.22885 0.49848
>         O 0.27143 0.71412 0.99854
>         O 0.72857 0.28588 0.99854
>         O 0.25631 0.36378 0.49729
>         O 0.74369 0.63622 0.49729
>         O 0.86389 0.24402 0.0024
>         O 0.13611 0.75598 0.0024
>         O 0.19451 0.43577 0.99433
>         O 0.80549 0.56423 0.99433
>         O 0.93555 0.30655 0.50484
>         O 0.06445 0.69345 0.50484
>         O 0.15356 0.29887 0.99582
>         O 0.84644 0.70113 0.99582
>         O 0.79982 0.34627 0.50333
>         O 0.20017 0.65373 0.50333
>         O 0.1236 0.39265 0.4933
>         O 0.8764 0.60735 0.4933
>         O 0.89318 0.37688 0.00597
>         O 0.10682 0.62312 0.00597
>         O 0.0611 0.46377 0.99359
>         O 0.9389 0.53623 0.99359
>         O 0.96397 0.439 0.50552
>         O 0.03603 0.561 0.50552
>         O 0.02684 0.33629 0.99854
>         O 0.97316 0.66371 0.99854
>         O 0.8369 0.4734 0.50109
>         O 0.1631 0.5266 0.50109
>         W 0.5 0 0.74844
>         W 0.87802 0.03479 0.0398
>         W 0.12198 0.96521 0.0398
>         W 0 0.5 0.24844
>         W 0.37802 0.53479 0.5398
>         W 0.62198 0.46521 0.5398
>         CELL_PARAMETERS (alat)
>         20.9817010000    0.0000000000     0.0000000000
>           0.0175589792   20.9607926454     0.0000000000
>           0.0000000000    0.0000000000     3.8232100000
>         K_POINTS {automatic}
>           1 1 5 0 0 0
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