[QE-users] problem computing cholesky

Christoph Wolf wolf.christoph at qns.science
Thu Jul 5 14:13:37 CEST 2018


I found that (for surface calculations) the cholesky problem occurs
frequently when the slab is not relaxed. A "quick and dirty" solution is to
first relax the slab a bit with very low convergence (something horribly
low like 1e-3). Then re-run with proper 1e-12 or whatever works. Seems as
if an unfortunate starting position can cause a lot of problems and 1-2% of
change of position already helps.

- mixing_beta~0.05
- diagonalization='cg'
- mixing_mode='local-TF'

are the other usual suspects. I think the problem occurs more often with NC
pp than US/PAW but I have not systematically investigated that.

HTH!
Chris

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>    4. Re: Shifting of Fermi level by applying bi-axial strain
>       (Paolo Giannozzi)
>    5. Re: problem computing cholesky (Paolo Giannozzi)
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> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 13:05:11 -0400
> From: Chandler Bennett <mcbennet at ncsu.edu>
> To: users at lists.quantum-espresso.org
> Subject: [QE-users] Behaviour of total force in vc-relax
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>  Hi,
>
> I am seeing something that seems bizarre in a vc-relax calculation
> (celldofree='shape') using pw.x. Notice below where I show the total force
> and the pressure at each ionic step of the calculation. Notice that at step
> 14 or so that things seem nearly converged, then suddenly after this point
> the magnitude of the pressure begins to drop significantly and the total
> force begins to increase significantly. Furthermore, the value of the
> pressure that the calculation converges to at the end is *larger* than a
> similar calculation that runs with a *smaller* cell volume (everything else
> being equal).
>
> Also, for my runs, I have set tprnfor = .true. in my inputs. Are there any
> ideas for what is going on here?
>
>      Total force = 0.059366     Total SCF correction = 0.005464    P=
> -210.32
>      Total force = 0.048261     Total SCF correction = 0.001504    P=
> -199.54
>      Total force = 0.034713     Total SCF correction = 0.000255    P=
> -198.63
>      Total force = 0.010340     Total SCF correction = 0.003548    P=
> -184.73
>      Total force = 0.009330     Total SCF correction = 0.000324    P=
> -184.72
>      Total force = 0.012479     Total SCF correction = 0.000263    P=
> -180.49
>      Total force = 0.010120     Total SCF correction = 0.000219    P=
> -188.10
>      Total force = 0.006841     Total SCF correction = 0.000685    P=
> -180.12
>      Total force = 0.005409     Total SCF correction = 0.000239    P=
> -182.81
>      Total force = 0.005971     Total SCF correction = 0.000538    P=
> -186.34
>      Total force = 0.006673     Total SCF correction = 0.000362    P=
> -184.00
>      Total force = 0.007914     Total SCF correction = 0.000232    P=
> -182.99
>      Total force = 0.007067     Total SCF correction = 0.000336    P=
> -183.27
>      Total force = 0.006471     Total SCF correction = 0.000278    P=
> -184.99
>      Total force = 0.006406     Total SCF correction = 0.000353    P=
> -183.72
>      Total force = 0.006868     Total SCF correction = 0.000148    P=
> -179.99
>      Total force = 0.009121     Total SCF correction = 0.000065    P=
> -181.85
>      Total force = 0.013930     Total SCF correction = 0.000400    P=
> -179.27
>      Total force = 0.020806     Total SCF correction = 0.000083    P=
> -174.72
>      Total force = 0.031915     Total SCF correction = 0.000436    P=
> -168.26
>      Total force = 0.049062     Total SCF correction = 0.000428    P=
> -155.56
>      Total force = 0.066521     Total SCF correction = 0.001433    P=
> -151.59
>      Total force = 0.081470     Total SCF correction = 0.001180    P=
> -134.90
>      Total force = 0.095677     Total SCF correction = 0.000684    P=
> -118.44
>      Total force = 0.110083     Total SCF correction = 0.000396    P=
> -101.84
>      Total force = 0.122165     Total SCF correction = 0.000185    P=
> -81.63
>      Total force = 0.132184     Total SCF correction = 0.000570    P=
> -70.81
>      Total force = 0.138722     Total SCF correction = 0.002340    P=
> -71.37
>      Total force = 0.143747     Total SCF correction = 0.000204    P=
> -34.73
>      Total force = 0.144336     Total SCF correction = 0.000270    P=
> -33.23
>      Total force = 0.137834     Total SCF correction = 0.003343    P=
> -37.95
>      Total force = 0.126686     Total SCF correction = 0.000727    P=
> -27.07
>      Total force = 0.108605     Total SCF correction = 0.000495    P=
> -11.16
>
> --
>
> Chandler Bennett
> NCSU Department of Physics
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> Subject: [QE-users] Shifting of Fermi level by applying bi-axial
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> Dear All,
>
> I have computed the electronic band structure under the compression and
> tensile strain. Change in the conduction band minima and valance band
> maxima are slightly shifted with strain which i have also verified from the
> WIEN2K but when i add or subtract the Fermi energy, then i observed in some
> cases, Fermi level close to conduction and some cases the Fermi energy
> close to valance band. since by applying the strain the types of
> semiconductor behavior (n type or p type) does not change. then why the
> Fermi level is shifted close to valance band maxima or conduction band
> minima. such types of behavior are not observed in the WIEN2k. why the
> Fermi level is shifted according to strain?
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> Rajneesh Chaurasiya
> Research Scholar
> IIT Jodhpur, India
> Mob. No. +91-9584499697
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> From: BARRETEAU Cyrille <cyrille.barreteau at cea.fr>
> To: "users at lists.quantum-espresso.org"
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> Subject: [QE-users] problem computing cholesky
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> Dear QE users & developers
>
> I am facing a a problem when trying to perform magneto-crrystalline
> anisotropy calculation using the Force-Theorem implementation of QE (as
> explained in the Force Theorem example).
> I first perform the scf calculation (scalar relativistic pseudo) that runs
> smoothly. The problem arises in the nscf calculation (relativistic pseudo)
> starting from the previous scf scalar relativistic charge-density.dat.
>
> The calculation very often fails due to problem in computing cholesky.
> This occurs in a rather erratic way depending on tiny changes in the input
> parameters or even on the number of nodes on the which the calculation is
> performed. I have tried changing the diagonalization technique (cg or
> david), increasing the diago_thr_init, other relativistic pseudo etc...But
> I could not find a reliable solution that systematically solves the problem.
>
> I have another question related to the restarting nscf from previous scf
> scalar relativistic.
> In the new version of qe (6.2.1) I got a warning message: "some spin
> components not found".
> Should I worry about this message?
>
> Thanks
> Cyrille
>
>
>
> ========================
> Cyrille Barreteau
> CEA Saclay, IRAMIS, SPEC Bat. 771
> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex, FRANCE
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +33 1 69 08 38 56 /+33  6 47 53 66 52  (mobile)
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 09:28:04 +0200
> From: Paolo Giannozzi <p.giannozzi at gmail.com>
> To: Quantum Espresso users Forum <users at lists.quantum-espresso.org>
> Subject: Re: [QE-users] Shifting of Fermi level by applying bi-axial
>         strain
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> I am not sure I understand your problem and don't know whether the
> following is relevant:
> in a semiconductor, the Fermi energy may be anywhere between the top of the
> valence band (plus a few time the broadening) and the bottom of the
> conduction band (minus a few times the broadening). The algorithm that
> locates the Fermi energy knows nothing about the middle of the gap.
>
> Paolo
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Rajneesh Chaurasiya <rajnano2012 at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I have computed the electronic band structure under the compression and
> > tensile strain. Change in the conduction band minima and valance band
> > maxima are slightly shifted with strain which i have also verified from
> the
> > WIEN2K but when i add or subtract the Fermi energy, then i observed in
> some
> > cases, Fermi level close to conduction and some cases the Fermi energy
> > close to valance band. since by applying the strain the types of
> > semiconductor behavior (n type or p type) does not change. then why the
> > Fermi level is shifted close to valance band maxima or conduction band
> > minima. such types of behavior are not observed in the WIEN2k. why the
> > Fermi level is shifted according to strain?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Rajneesh Chaurasiya
> > Research Scholar
> > IIT Jodhpur, India
> > Mob. No. +91-9584499697
> >               +91-7610950803
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Paolo Giannozzi, Dip. Scienze Matematiche Informatiche e Fisiche,
> Univ. Udine, via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 09:31:54 +0200
> From: Paolo Giannozzi <p.giannozzi at gmail.com>
> To: Quantum Espresso users Forum <users at lists.quantum-espresso.org>
> Subject: Re: [QE-users] problem computing cholesky
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> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 9:00 AM, BARRETEAU Cyrille <
> cyrille.barreteau at cea.fr>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have another question related to the restarting nscf from previous scf
> > scalar relativistic.
> > In the new version of qe (6.2.1) I got a warning message: "some spin
> > components not found".
> > Should I worry about this message?
> >
>
> no, it is the expected behavior: a warning is issued because you are
> reading LSDA data in a noncolinear calculation.
>
> The Cholesky problem is old and well known. Practical solutions are
> unfortunately less well known...
>
> Paolo
>
>
> Thanks
> Cyrille
>
>
>
> ========================
> *Cyrille Barreteau*
> CEA Saclay, IRAMIS, SPEC Bat. 771
> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex, FRANCE
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +33 1 69 08 38 56 /+33  6 47 53 66 52  (mobile)
> email:     cyrille.barreteau at cea.fr
> Web:     http://iramis.cea.fr/Pisp/cyrille.barreteau/
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 12:13:35 +0430
> From: Zahra Torbatian <z.torbatian at gmail.com>
> To: users at lists.quantum-espresso.org
> Subject: [QE-users] wfck2r.x
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> Dear all,
>
> How can I use wfck2r.x? Does it need any input file
> I have not found any sample input for  wfck2r.x.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Zahra
> IPM, Tehran, Iran
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 17:09:28 +0800
> From: "=?ISO-8859-1?B?amliaWFvbGk=?=" <jibiaoli at foxmail.com>
> To: "=?ISO-8859-1?B?dXNlcnM=?=" <users at lists.quantum-espresso.org>
> Subject: [QE-users] Error in routine postproc (17) :reading inputpp
>         namelist
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> Hi, All
>
>
> I encountered the error below when performing calcualtions using pp.x. Any
> idea to resolve this issue?
>
>
>      Program POST-PROC v.5.1rc1 starts on  5Jul2018 at 15:54:39
>      This program is part of the open-source Quantum ESPRESSO suite
>      for quantum simulation of materials; please cite
>          "P. Giannozzi et al., J. Phys.:Condens. Matter 21 395502 (2009);
>           URL http://www.quantum-espresso.org",
>      in publications or presentations arising from this work. More details
> at
>      http://www.quantum-espresso.org/quote
>      Parallel version (MPI), running on     1 processors
>  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>      Error in routine postproc (17):
>      reading inputpp namelist
>  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>      stopping ...
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MPI_ABORT was invoked on rank 0 in communicator MPI_COMM_WORLD
> with errorcode 1.
> NOTE: invoking MPI_ABORT causes Open MPI to kill all MPI processes.
> You may or may not see output from other processes, depending on
> exactly when Open MPI kills them.
>
>
> Best
>
>
> Jibiao Li
> Yangtze Normal University, China
>
>
> &inputpp
> prefix = 'ads' ,
> outdir = './' ,
>                      filplot = 'deep_sy_vert' ,
>                     plot_num = 7,
>                    kpoint(1) = 14,
>                     kband(1) = 4,
>                        lsign = .true. ,
> /
> &PLOT
>                        nfile = 1 ,
>                    filepp(1) = 'deep_sy_vert',
>                    weight(1) = 1.0,
>                      fileout = 'deep_sy_vert.xsf' ,
>                        iflag = 2 ,
>                output_format = 3 ,
>                        e1(1) = 1.732,
>                        e1(2) = 0,
>                        e1(3) = 0,
>                        e2(1) = 0,
>                        e2(2) = 0,
>                        e2(3) = 1.732,
>                        x0(1) = 0,
>                        x0(2) = 0,
>                        x0(3) = 0.95,
>                           nx = 90 ,
>                           ny = 90 ,
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> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 15:22:58 +0530
> From: Rajneesh Chaurasiya <rajnano2012 at gmail.com>
> To: users at lists.quantum-espresso.org
> Subject: Re: [QE-users] Shifting of Fermi level by applying bi-axial
>         strain
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> Dear Paolo,
> My question is simple, why the Fermi level is shifted close to valance band
> or conduction band by shifting the Fermi energy in strained monolayers.
> In basic semiconductor, if the Fermi level is close to conduction band then
> its called n types semiconductor while if the Fermi level is close to the
> valance band is called p type semiconductor.
> In most the software like Wien2k Fermi level is located close to the
> valance band means all states are filled upto that level and also remain
> same by applying the strain. but in espresso, its switch to valance band
> maxima and conduction band minima by according to applied strain. i think,
> its not acceptable. please correct if i am wrong.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Rajneesh Chaurasiya <
> rajnano2012 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I have computed the electronic band structure under the compression and
> > tensile strain. Change in the conduction band minima and valance band
> > maxima are slightly shifted with strain which i have also verified from
> the
> > WIEN2K but when i add or subtract the Fermi energy, then i observed in
> some
> > cases, Fermi level close to conduction and some cases the Fermi energy
> > close to valance band. since by applying the strain the types of
> > semiconductor behavior (n type or p type) does not change. then why the
> > Fermi level is shifted close to valance band maxima or conduction band
> > minima. such types of behavior are not observed in the WIEN2k. why the
> > Fermi level is shifted according to strain?
> >
> > --
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Rajneesh Chaurasiya
> > Research Scholar
> > IIT Jodhpur, India
> > Mob. No. +91-9584499697
> >               +91-7610950803
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> Rajneesh Chaurasiya
> Research Scholar
> IIT Jodhpur, India
> Mob. No. +91-9584499697
>               +91-7610950803
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