[Pw_forum] magnetic anisotropy calculation using fully-relativistic PPs

peter petercybertron at gmail.com
Sun Sep 13 19:20:10 CEST 2015


Hi Cyrille,

Thank you for sharing this! But is it impossible for the method 
implemented in pwscf, or for all methods based on DFT?

best,
Yun-Peng

On 09/13/2015 03:19 AM, BARRETEAU Cyrille wrote:
> Hi Yun-Peng
>
> If your objective is really to determine quantitatively the value of 
> the magnetic anisotropy I think that it is an impossible task to get a 
> precision of 0.01meV!!!
>
> Already below 0.1meV it is quite delicate but 0.01meV is just hopeless!
>
> Good luck
> Cyrille
>
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> *De :* pw_forum-bounces at pwscf.org [pw_forum-bounces at pwscf.org] de la 
> part de peter [petercybertron at gmail.com]
> *Envoyé :* samedi 12 septembre 2015 23:33
> *À :* pw_forum at pwscf.org
> *Objet :* Re: [Pw_forum] magnetic anisotropy calculation using 
> fully-relativistic PPs
>
> Hi Cyrille,
> Since magnetic anisotropy energy is very small (~0.01 meV per atom in 
> my system), do I need to use higher cutoff energies to account for 
> such small energy scale?
>
> best,
> Yun-Peng
>
> On 09/12/2015 03:30 PM, BARRETEAU Cyrille wrote:
>> Dear Yun-Peng,
>>
>> >From experience I can just say that calculation using 
>> fully-relativistic PP can be really difficult to converge and 
>> sometimes almost impossible to achieve the desired accuracy 
>> (especially since magneto-crystalline anisotropy requires very strict 
>> convergence thresholds). You can play with broadening and k points 
>> sampling.
>>
>> Cyrille
>>
>>
>> ========================
>> *Cyrille Barreteau*
>> CEA Saclay, IRAMIS, SPECBat. 771
>> 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex, FRANCE
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> DTU Nanotech
>> Ørsteds Plads, building 345E
>> DK-2800 Kgs. Lyngby, DENMARK
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> +33 1 69 08 29 51 /+33 6 47 53 66 52 (mobile) (Fr)
>> +45 45 25 63 12/ +45     28 72 55 18 (mobile) (Dk)
>> email: cyrille.barreteau at cea.fr  /cyrbar at nanotech.dtu.dk
>> Web: 
>> <http://iramis.cea.fr/Pisp/cyrille.barreteau/>http://iramis.cea.fr/Pisp/cyrille.barreteau/
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>> *De :* pw_forum-bounces at pwscf.org [pw_forum-bounces at pwscf.org] de la 
>> part de yuewen.fang [yuewen.fang at gmail.com]
>> *Envoyé :* samedi 12 septembre 2015 20:42
>> *À :* pw_forum
>> *Objet :* Re: [Pw_forum] magnetic anisotropy calculation using 
>> fully-relativistic PPs
>>
>> Hi, Yun-Peng,
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback. It depends on the matter which you are 
>> interested in.  I think this paper (Phys. Rev. B 86, 085135 (2012)) 
>> can help you.
>>
>> Bests
>> Fang
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Yue-Wen FANG, PhD candidate
>>
>> East China Normal University <http://english.ecnu.edu.cn/>
>>
>>
>> < peter <mailto:petercybertron at gmail.com>> 2015-09-13 02:16:28 wrote:
>>
>>     Thank you for your suggestions!
>>     I tried using a small mixing beta (0.1~0.2), and tried using
>>     reasonable cutoff energies (ecutwfc=50, ecutrho=500), now the
>>     convergence is much better than before (converged down to 10^-6 Ry).
>>     Another question is, I can find ultra-soft and PAW
>>     pseudopotentials, which one is better for spin-orbit
>>     calculations? I am using PBE XC functional.
>>
>>     best,
>>     Yun-Peng
>>
>>     On 09/11/2015 08:08 PM, yuewen.fang wrote:
>>>     Dear Yun-Peng,
>>>
>>>     Plz try to decrease mixing and perform some convergence tests
>>>     for your cutoff energy to remove the oscillation of the energy!
>>>     In addition, this oscillation could also be caused by the
>>>     unreasonable smearing methods for metals.
>>>
>>>     Bests
>>>     Fang
>>>
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>>>
>>>     < Peter Cybertron <mailto:petercybertron at gmail.com>> 2015-09-12
>>>     03:10:31 wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>         I am working in University of Florida as a postdoc.
>>>         I am exploring the spin-orbital calculations using pwscf, and I
>>>         encounter a very slow convergence like this:
>>>         > grep estimated scf.out
>>>         estimated scf accuracy < 0.00000004 Ry
>>>         ... (100 similar lines)
>>>         estimated scf accuracy < 0.00000003 Ry
>>>         > grep "total energy" scf.out
>>>         ...
>>>         total energy = -3667.91077719 Ry
>>>         total energy = -3667.91078176 Ry
>>>         total energy = -3667.91077642 Ry
>>>         total energy = -3667.91078300 Ry
>>>
>>>
>>>         Although the convergence of total energy seems OK (down to
>>>         0.00001 Ry ~
>>>         0.0001 eV = 0.1 meV), I still feel uncomfortable since I
>>>         never encounter
>>>         such a problem without spin-orbit interactions.
>>>
>>>
>>>         I downloaded the ultrasoft and PAW pseudopotentials from
>>>         PSLib and I am
>>>         using the PBE flavor of XC functional. The system I am
>>>         studying is a two
>>>         dimensional magnetic insulator.
>>>
>>>
>>>         The parameters I am using are:
>>>         constrained_magnetization = 'total direction'
>>>         fixed_magnetization(3) = 0.0
>>>         lambda = 0.2
>>>         ecutwfc = 30.0 ,
>>>         ecutrho = 300.0 ,
>>>         occupations = 'smearing' ,
>>>         degauss = 0.005,
>>>         smearing = 'mv' ,
>>>         nosym=.true.
>>>         mixing_mode = 'local-TF' ,
>>>         mixing_beta = 0.9 ,
>>>         diagonalization = 'david' ,
>>>
>>>
>>>         Which parameter on earth keep my calculations non-converged?
>>>
>>>
>>>         Best,
>>>         Yun-Peng
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