[Pw_forum] How to select unit cell for optimization calculation?

max aquiles011 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 7 19:23:04 CEST 2015


Thanks for your help.

I read  in mail-archive.com that this spinel work fine with 2 formula units
but I cannot found how reducre from 8 formula units to 2 formula units.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Giovanni Cantele <
giovanni.cantele at spin.cnr.it> wrote:

> if you want to optimize the structure (that is, the lattice constant), I
> would say that you cannot use few atoms.
>
> Convergence of the total energy with respect to the cutoff is a property
> of the pseudo potentials, so you could check the variations
> of the total energy with respect to ecutwfc by considering one atom for
> each atomic species in a cubic supercell. However, the convergence
> of other properties, that are proper of the crystal, e.g. bulk modulus,
> phonon frequencies, and so on require using the full system.
>
> For the case of alat (lattice parameter) in principle you should relax the
> system at each value of alat.
>
> Giovanni
>
>
>
>
> On 07 Jul 2015, at 10:33, max <aquiles011 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the fast response. *definitely need 56 atoms*. Thats mean that
> cannot use few atoms for convergence test and optimize the structure.
>
> If you can, can you suggest me some tricks for convergence test with this
> lot of atoms?
>
> I need run relax calculation before run scf for ecut and alat convergence
> test?
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Giovanni Cantele <
> giovanni.cantele at spin.cnr.it> wrote:
>
>> As far as I understand, the LiMn2O4 has 8 formula units in one unit cell,
>> so you definitely need 56 atoms in the unit cell.
>>
>> The cif file contains only information on the inequivalent atoms, all
>> others can be obtained from the former by applying the
>> coordinate transformation of the space group Fd-3m
>>
>> A useful way to do that, as specified here:
>>
>> http://www.quantum-espresso.org/faq/input-data/#3.2
>>
>> is to run the converter from cif files included in the QE distribution.
>>
>> espresso-5.2.0/PW/tools/cif2qe.sh 1513984 > 1513984.scf.in
>>
>> This produces a file (that you might want to check for correctness and to
>> modify according to your needs) that looks like
>>
>>
>> &CONTROL
>>                        title = '1513984'
>>                  calculation = 'relax'
>>                 restart_mode = 'from_scratch'
>>                       outdir = './1'
>>                   pseudo_dir = '../PP/atompaw'
>>                       prefix = '1513984'
>>                      disk_io = 'none'
>>                    verbosity = 'default'
>>                etot_conv_thr = 0.0001
>>                forc_conv_thr = 0.001
>>                        nstep = 400
>>                      tstress = .true.
>>                      tprnfor = .true.
>>  /
>>  &SYSTEM
>>                        ibrav = 0
>>                          nat = 56
>>                         ntyp = 3
>>                      ecutwfc = 60
>>                      ecutrho = 480
>>                     vdw_corr = 'xdm'
>>                       xdm_a1 = 1.2153
>>                       xdm_a2 = 2.3704
>>  /
>>  &ELECTRONS
>>             electron_maxstep = 200
>>                     conv_thr = 1.0D-7
>>               diago_thr_init = 1e-4
>>                  startingpot = 'atomic'
>>                  startingwfc = 'atomic'
>>                  mixing_mode = 'plain'
>>                  mixing_beta = 0.5
>>                  mixing_ndim = 8
>>              diagonalization = 'david'
>>  /
>> &IONS
>>                 ion_dynamics = 'bfgs'
>>  /
>>
>> ATOMIC_SPECIES
>>   Li1+    0.0000000000  Li1+.pw86pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
>>   Mn3.5+    0.0000000000  Mn3.5+.pw86pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
>>   O2-    0.0000000000  O2-.pw86pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
>>
>> ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal
>> Li1+      0.87500000000000      0.87500000000000      0.87500000000000
>> Li1+      0.12500000000000      0.12500000000000      0.12500000000000
>> Li1+      0.87500000000000      0.37500000000000      0.37500000000000
>> Li1+      0.37500000000000      0.87500000000000      0.37500000000000
>> Li1+      0.37500000000000      0.37500000000000      0.87500000000000
>> Li1+      0.12500000000000      0.62500000000000      0.62500000000000
>> Li1+      0.62500000000000      0.12500000000000      0.62500000000000
>> Li1+      0.62500000000000      0.62500000000000      0.12500000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.25000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.25000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.50000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.50000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.75000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.75000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.50000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.75000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.25000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.75000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.25000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.00000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.00000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.00000000000000
>> Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.50000000000000
>> O2-      0.73730000000000      0.01270000000000      0.01270000000000
>> O2-      0.01270000000000      0.73730000000000      0.01270000000000
>> O2-      0.01270000000000      0.01270000000000      0.73730000000000
>> O2-      0.73730000000000      0.73730000000000      0.73730000000000
>> O2-      0.26270000000000      0.98730000000000      0.98730000000000
>> O2-      0.98730000000000      0.26270000000000      0.98730000000000
>> O2-      0.98730000000000      0.98730000000000      0.26270000000000
>> O2-      0.26270000000000      0.26270000000000      0.26270000000000
>> O2-      0.73730000000000      0.51270000000000      0.51270000000000
>> O2-      0.23730000000000      0.01270000000000      0.51270000000000
>> O2-      0.23730000000000      0.51270000000000      0.01270000000000
>> O2-      0.01270000000000      0.23730000000000      0.51270000000000
>> O2-      0.51270000000000      0.73730000000000      0.51270000000000
>> O2-      0.51270000000000      0.23730000000000      0.01270000000000
>> O2-      0.01270000000000      0.51270000000000      0.23730000000000
>> O2-      0.51270000000000      0.01270000000000      0.23730000000000
>> O2-      0.51270000000000      0.51270000000000      0.73730000000000
>> O2-      0.73730000000000      0.23730000000000      0.23730000000000
>> O2-      0.23730000000000      0.73730000000000      0.23730000000000
>> O2-      0.23730000000000      0.23730000000000      0.73730000000000
>> O2-      0.26270000000000      0.48730000000000      0.48730000000000
>> O2-      0.76270000000000      0.98730000000000      0.48730000000000
>> O2-      0.76270000000000      0.48730000000000      0.98730000000000
>> O2-      0.98730000000000      0.76270000000000      0.48730000000000
>> O2-      0.48730000000000      0.26270000000000      0.48730000000000
>> O2-      0.48730000000000      0.76270000000000      0.98730000000000
>> O2-      0.98730000000000      0.48730000000000      0.76270000000000
>> O2-      0.48730000000000      0.98730000000000      0.76270000000000
>> O2-      0.48730000000000      0.48730000000000      0.26270000000000
>> O2-      0.26270000000000      0.76270000000000      0.76270000000000
>> O2-      0.76270000000000      0.26270000000000      0.76270000000000
>> O2-      0.76270000000000      0.76270000000000      0.26270000000000
>>
>> K_POINTS automatic
>> 2  2  2   0 0 0
>>
>> CELL_PARAMETERS
>>     15.57115429380366      0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000
>>      0.00000000000000     15.57115429380366      0.00000000000000
>>      0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000     15.57115429380366
>>
>>
>>
>> Giovanni
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06 Jul 2015, at 20:51, max <aquiles011 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm confusing, I need to do some convergence test, but I don't know if I
>> need primitive or one unit cell and how to select it.
>>
>> I'm using this structure http://www.crystallography.net/cod/1513984.html
>>
>> I extracted the crystallographic translation. The cell formula units are
>> 8, has 56 atoms.  See ATOMIC_POSITIONS bellow.
>>
>> One unit cell of LiMn2O4 (spinel) has 7 atoms.
>>
>> I have the following questions:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Do I need to put 7 atoms in the primitive cell or how many?How can I
>> select the atoms position for primitive or one unit cell?*
>>
>> ATOMIC_POSITIONS alat
>>    Li      0.125000000    0.125000000    0.125000000
>>    Li     -0.125000000    0.875000000    0.875000000
>>    Li      0.875000000   -0.125000000    0.875000000
>>    Li      0.875000000    0.875000000   -0.125000000
>>    Li     -0.125000000   -0.125000000   -0.125000000
>>    Li     -0.125000000    0.375000000    0.375000000
>>    Li      0.375000000    0.875000000    0.375000000
>>    Li      0.875000000    0.375000000    0.375000000
>>    Mn      0.500000000    0.500000000    0.500000000
>>    Mn     -0.500000000    1.250000000    1.250000000
>>    Mn      1.250000000   -0.500000000    1.250000000
>>    Mn      1.250000000    1.250000000   -0.500000000
>>    Mn     -0.500000000   -0.500000000   -0.500000000
>>    Mn      0.500000000   -0.250000000   -0.250000000
>>    Mn     -0.250000000    0.500000000   -0.250000000
>>    Mn     -0.250000000   -0.250000000    0.500000000
>>    Mn     -0.500000000    0.750000000    0.750000000
>>    Mn      0.000000000    1.250000000    0.750000000
>>    Mn      0.000000000    0.750000000    1.250000000
>>    Mn      1.250000000    0.000000000    0.750000000
>>    Mn      0.750000000   -0.500000000    0.750000000
>>    Mn      0.750000000    0.000000000    1.250000000
>>    Mn      1.250000000    0.750000000    0.000000000
>>    Mn      0.750000000    1.250000000    0.000000000
>>     O     -0.262700000    1.012700000    1.012700000
>>     O      1.012700000   -0.262700000    1.012700000
>>     O      1.012700000    1.012700000   -0.262700000
>>     O     -0.262700000   -0.262700000   -0.262700000
>>     O      0.262700000   -0.012700000   -0.012700000
>>     O     -0.012700000    0.262700000   -0.012700000
>>     O     -0.012700000   -0.012700000    0.262700000
>>     O      0.262700000    0.262700000    0.262700000
>>     O     -0.262700000    0.512700000    0.512700000
>>     O      0.237300000    1.012700000    0.512700000
>>     O      0.237300000    0.512700000    1.012700000
>>     O      1.012700000    0.237300000    0.512700000
>>     O      0.512700000   -0.262700000    0.512700000
>>     O      0.512700000    0.237300000    1.012700000
>>     O      1.012700000    0.512700000    0.237300000
>>     O      0.512700000    1.012700000    0.237300000
>>     O      0.512700000    0.512700000   -0.262700000
>>     O     -0.262700000    0.237300000    0.237300000
>>     O      0.237300000   -0.262700000    0.237300000
>>     O      0.237300000    0.237300000   -0.262700000
>>     O      0.262700000    0.487300000    0.487300000
>>     O      0.762700000   -0.012700000    0.487300000
>>     O      0.762700000    0.487300000   -0.012700000
>>     O     -0.012700000    0.762700000    0.487300000
>>     O      0.487300000    0.262700000    0.487300000
>>     O      0.487300000    0.762700000   -0.012700000
>>     O     -0.012700000    0.487300000    0.762700000
>>     O      0.487300000   -0.012700000    0.762700000
>>     O      0.487300000    0.487300000    0.262700000
>>     O      0.262700000    0.762700000    0.762700000
>>     O      0.762700000    0.262700000    0.762700000
>>     O      0.762700000    0.762700000    0.262700000
>>
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