[Pw_forum] pw 5.1.1 odd results in vc-relax

Giuseppe Mattioli giuseppe.mattioli at ism.cnr.it
Mon Feb 9 15:18:36 CET 2015


Dear Carlo

>     vdw_corr = 'xdm'
>     xdm_a1 = 0.0000
>     xdm_a2 = 4.1503

Yes, it should be correct.

> I tried to add the spinorbit correction:
> 
>     noncolin = .true.
>     lspinorb = .true.
> 
> but the code exit with
>       Error in routine energy_xdm (1):
>      nspin > 2 not implemented

It seems that you cannot use xdm together with SOC. I would keep xdm in your case.

> nervi at chpc111 $ awk '/unit-cell/' ULOKUB_ecut50

Is it 50/400 Ry? Is it a converged value?

Best Wishes

Giuseppe

On Monday, February 09, 2015 12:47:20 PM Carlo Nervi wrote:
> Dear Giuseppe,
> thank you very much for your suggestion.
> My main concerns were about different results obtained on the same system,
> which puzzles me.
> Apparently my pw.x code is okay, since also the old one (4.3.2) gave
> similar strange results.
> I used pbesol, therefore I guess (if I understood correctly) I should use
> this input:
> 
>     vdw_corr = 'xdm'
>     xdm_a1 = 0.0000
>     xdm_a2 = 4.1503
> 
> (from here: http://gatsby.ucmerced.edu/wiki/XDM)
> 
> I tried to add the spinorbit correction:
> 
>     noncolin = .true.
>     lspinorb = .true.
> 
> but the code exit with
>       Error in routine energy_xdm (1):
>      nspin > 2 not implemented
> 
> So I run without noncolin and lspinorb. I got a much smaller cell:
> 
> nervi at chpc111 $ awk '/unit-cell/' ULOKUB_ecut50_opt.out
>      unit-cell volume          =    1834.6689 (a.u.)^3
>      new unit-cell volume =   1910.72951 a.u.^3 (   283.14090 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1867.80516 a.u.^3 (   276.78016 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1912.87224 a.u.^3 (   283.45842 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1905.31656 a.u.^3 (   282.33878 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1886.36736 a.u.^3 (   279.53080 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1880.73733 a.u.^3 (   278.69651 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1870.99986 a.u.^3 (   277.25357 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1854.95166 a.u.^3 (   274.87547 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1829.04915 a.u.^3 (   271.03712 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1787.37430 a.u.^3 (   264.86154 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1774.46108 a.u.^3 (   262.94800 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1757.48022 a.u.^3 (   260.43170 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1753.91380 a.u.^3 (   259.90321 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1749.78707 a.u.^3 (   259.29169 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1743.65835 a.u.^3 (   258.38351 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1737.62588 a.u.^3 (   257.48959 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1731.23334 a.u.^3 (   256.54231 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1721.50143 a.u.^3 (   255.10019 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1707.28097 a.u.^3 (   252.99293 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1687.33224 a.u.^3 (   250.03684 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1686.78734 a.u.^3 (   249.95609 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1689.29156 a.u.^3 (   250.32718 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1687.08639 a.u.^3 (   250.00041 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1685.38842 a.u.^3 (   249.74879 Ang^3 )
>      new unit-cell volume =   1685.38842 a.u.^3 (   249.74879 Ang^3 )
>      unit-cell volume          =    1685.3884 (a.u.)^3
> 
> I'm still playing trying to understand the system and its realibility.
> Thanks,
>   Carlo
> 
> 2015-02-09 10:59 GMT+01:00 Giuseppe Mattioli <giuseppe.mattioli at ism.cnr.it>:
> > Dear Carlo
> > Your *very exotic* crystal structure is going to be challenging for every
> > code for several reasons. I suppose that, for example, you will never obtain
> > decent lattice parameters without using a (good) contribution to
> > dispersion forces. As you are using PAW PPs, I suggest to try the new XDM
> > method. I
> > can report excellent results for (metal-)organic crystals. You must supply
> > to the code the appropriate parameters, which in the case of PBE are
> > 
> >     vdw_corr='xdm',
> >     xdm_a1=0.3275, xdm_a2=2.7673,
> > 
> > It should probably not affect the structural properties very much, but you
> > may try to check if the Iodine atoms benefit of some spin-orbit coupling
> > treatment.
> > 
> > The cell is small, and even if your bands should be not far from flat, you
> > may experience some strong interaction between localized states at gamma.
> > You can try to use a shifted k-points mesh (e.g., 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1) in scf
> > calculations, and to reintroduce gamma in nscf ones if you need a DOS plot.
> > 
> > HTH
> > Giuseppe
> > 
> > On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:10:25 AM Carlo Nervi wrote:
> > > Good point. I tried also with Castep 7.0 (same pbesol but onthe fly
> > 
> > pseudo)
> > 
> > > and it cannot reach convergence. Just increase and eat RAM without
> > 
> > reaching
> > 
> > > any convergence.
> > > Anyway, I run also the same two inputs also on the 4.3.2 version and the
> > > results are almost the same.  Below I report them for comparison.
> > > I'm confused....
> > > 
> > >      pw.x 5.1.1: ecut60_kp222_opt.out
> > >   
> > >   pw.x 4.3.2: ecut60_kp222_opt_pw432.out
> > > 
> > > [ 1] unit-cell volume          =    1834.6689 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
> > >            [ 1]    =    1834.6689 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
> > > [ 2] new unit-cell volume =   1916.92975 a.u.^3 (   284.05968 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 2]   1916.89038 a.u.^3 (   284.05384 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 3] new unit-cell volume =   1870.67155 a.u.^3 (   277.20492 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 3]   1870.65414 a.u.^3 (   277.20234 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 4] new unit-cell volume =   1921.05067 a.u.^3 (   284.67033 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 4]   1921.02565 a.u.^3 (   284.66663 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 5] new unit-cell volume =   1916.96334 a.u.^3 (   284.06466 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 5]   1916.80696 a.u.^3 (   284.04148 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 6] new unit-cell volume =   1901.29925 a.u.^3 (   281.74348 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 6]   1900.95704 a.u.^3 (   281.69277 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 7] new unit-cell volume =   1901.18545 a.u.^3 (   281.72661 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 7]   1901.00790 a.u.^3 (   281.70030 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 8] new unit-cell volume =   1900.12506 a.u.^3 (   281.56948 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 8]   1899.99088 a.u.^3 (   281.54960 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 9] new unit-cell volume =   1896.90561 a.u.^3 (   281.09241 Ang^3 )   [
> > > 9]   1896.77471 a.u.^3 (   281.07301 Ang^3 )
> > > [10] new unit-cell volume =   1890.33791 a.u.^3 (   280.11917 Ang^3 )
> > > [10]   1890.25923 a.u.^3 (   280.10751 Ang^3 )
> > > [11] new unit-cell volume =   1881.89664 a.u.^3 (   278.86831 Ang^3 )
> > > [11]   1882.03626 a.u.^3 (   278.88900 Ang^3 )
> > > [12] new unit-cell volume =   1873.99541 a.u.^3 (   277.69747 Ang^3 )
> > > [12]   1873.51712 a.u.^3 (   277.62659 Ang^3 )
> > > [13] new unit-cell volume =   1865.86498 a.u.^3 (   276.49266 Ang^3 )
> > > [13]   1866.51615 a.u.^3 (   276.58915 Ang^3 )
> > > [14] new unit-cell volume =   1864.19811 a.u.^3 (   276.24566 Ang^3 )
> > > [14]   1863.95891 a.u.^3 (   276.21021 Ang^3 )
> > > [15] new unit-cell volume =   1864.57674 a.u.^3 (   276.30176 Ang^3 )
> > > [15]   1864.53369 a.u.^3 (   276.29538 Ang^3 )
> > > [16] new unit-cell volume =   1865.55777 a.u.^3 (   276.44714 Ang^3 )
> > > [16]   1865.49744 a.u.^3 (   276.43820 Ang^3 )
> > > [17] new unit-cell volume =   1866.79207 a.u.^3 (   276.63004 Ang^3 )
> > > [17]   1866.65432 a.u.^3 (   276.60963 Ang^3 )
> > > [18] new unit-cell volume =   1869.30622 a.u.^3 (   277.00260 Ang^3 )
> > > [18]   1869.10349 a.u.^3 (   276.97256 Ang^3 )
> > > [19] new unit-cell volume =   1873.20777 a.u.^3 (   277.58075 Ang^3 )
> > > [19]   1872.78516 a.u.^3 (   277.51813 Ang^3 )
> > > [20] new unit-cell volume =   1879.19014 a.u.^3 (   278.46724 Ang^3 )
> > > [20]   1878.36245 a.u.^3 (   278.34459 Ang^3 )
> > > [21] new unit-cell volume =   1884.66187 a.u.^3 (   279.27807 Ang^3 )
> > > [21]   1883.96194 a.u.^3 (   279.17435 Ang^3 )
> > > [22] new unit-cell volume =   1891.20864 a.u.^3 (   280.24820 Ang^3 )
> > > [22]   1889.86635 a.u.^3 (   280.04930 Ang^3 )
> > > [23] new unit-cell volume =   1901.10293 a.u.^3 (   281.71439 Ang^3 )
> > > [23]   1898.71267 a.u.^3 (   281.36018 Ang^3 )
> > > [24] new unit-cell volume =   1914.72645 a.u.^3 (   283.73318 Ang^3 )
> > > [24]   1912.22947 a.u.^3 (   283.36317 Ang^3 )
> > > [25] new unit-cell volume =   1930.25095 a.u.^3 (   286.03368 Ang^3 )
> > > [25]   1924.28177 a.u.^3 (   285.14914 Ang^3 )
> > > [26] new unit-cell volume =   1937.73275 a.u.^3 (   287.14236 Ang^3 )
> > > [26]   1937.63927 a.u.^3 (   287.12851 Ang^3 )
> > > [27] new unit-cell volume =   1941.73622 a.u.^3 (   287.73562 Ang^3 )
> > > [27]   1941.66666 a.u.^3 (   287.72531 Ang^3 )
> > > [28] new unit-cell volume =   1944.88562 a.u.^3 (   288.20231 Ang^3 )
> > > [28]   1943.48926 a.u.^3 (   287.99539 Ang^3 )
> > > [29] new unit-cell volume =   1949.01818 a.u.^3 (   288.81469 Ang^3 )
> > > [29]   1945.65177 a.u.^3 (   288.31584 Ang^3 )
> > > [30] new unit-cell volume =   1953.99704 a.u.^3 (   289.55248 Ang^3 )
> > > [30]   1950.94524 a.u.^3 (   289.10025 Ang^3 )
> > > [31] new unit-cell volume =   1962.17319 a.u.^3 (   290.76406 Ang^3 )
> > > [31]   1958.81209 a.u.^3 (   290.26600 Ang^3 )
> > > [32] new unit-cell volume =   1974.45089 a.u.^3 (   292.58343 Ang^3 )
> > > [32]   1970.67480 a.u.^3 (   292.02387 Ang^3 )
> > > [33] new unit-cell volume =   1992.92859 a.u.^3 (   295.32154 Ang^3 )
> > > [33]   1988.56058 a.u.^3 (   294.67427 Ang^3 )
> > > [34] new unit-cell volume =   2020.13868 a.u.^3 (   299.35366 Ang^3 )
> > > [34]   2015.10118 a.u.^3 (   298.60718 Ang^3 )
> > > [35] new unit-cell volume =   2032.08995 a.u.^3 (   301.12466 Ang^3 )
> > > [35]   2026.74222 a.u.^3 (   300.33221 Ang^3 )
> > > [36] new unit-cell volume =   2049.78113 a.u.^3 (   303.74622 Ang^3 )
> > > [36]   2043.98629 a.u.^3 (   302.88751 Ang^3 )
> > > [37] new unit-cell volume =   2076.66366 a.u.^3 (   307.72980 Ang^3 )
> > > [37]   2069.87449 a.u.^3 (   306.72375 Ang^3 )
> > > [38] new unit-cell volume =   2100.27547 a.u.^3 (   311.22871 Ang^3 )
> > > [38]   2108.37862 a.u.^3 (   312.42947 Ang^3 )
> > > [39] new unit-cell volume =   2098.38435 a.u.^3 (   310.94848 Ang^3 )
> > > [39]   2103.73265 a.u.^3 (   311.74101 Ang^3 )
> > > [40] new unit-cell volume =   2096.76071 a.u.^3 (   310.70788 Ang^3 )
> > > [40]   2103.09452 a.u.^3 (   311.64645 Ang^3 )
> > > [41] new unit-cell volume =   2093.53470 a.u.^3 (   310.22983 Ang^3 )
> > > [41]   2105.36802 a.u.^3 (   311.98335 Ang^3 )
> > > [42] new unit-cell volume =   2090.92157 a.u.^3 (   309.84261 Ang^3 )
> > > [42]   2109.06268 a.u.^3 (   312.53084 Ang^3 )
> > > [43] new unit-cell volume =   2088.04282 a.u.^3 (   309.41602 Ang^3 )
> > > [43]   2114.58893 a.u.^3 (   313.34975 Ang^3 )
> > > [44] new unit-cell volume =   2087.37088 a.u.^3 (   309.31645 Ang^3 )
> > > [44]   2123.60310 a.u.^3 (   314.68551 Ang^3 )
> > > [45] new unit-cell volume =   2089.06128 a.u.^3 (   309.56694 Ang^3 )
> > > [45]   2137.26799 a.u.^3 (   316.71044 Ang^3 )
> > > [46] new unit-cell volume =   2092.69424 a.u.^3 (   310.10529 Ang^3 )
> > > [46]   2132.82626 a.u.^3 (   316.05224 Ang^3 )
> > > [47] new unit-cell volume =   2098.38075 a.u.^3 (   310.94794 Ang^3 )
> > > [47]   2127.74869 a.u.^3 (   315.29982 Ang^3 )
> > > [48] new unit-cell volume =   2104.49475 a.u.^3 (   311.85394 Ang^3 )
> > > [48]   2124.00032 a.u.^3 (   314.74437 Ang^3 )
> > > [49] new unit-cell volume =   2100.70529 a.u.^3 (   311.29240 Ang^3 )
> > > [49]   2117.12346 a.u.^3 (   313.72532 Ang^3 )
> > > [50] new unit-cell volume =   2083.40173 a.u.^3 (   308.72828 Ang^3 )
> > > [50]   2105.73130 a.u.^3 (   312.03718 Ang^3 )
> > > [51] new unit-cell volume =   2077.05453 a.u.^3 (   307.78772 Ang^3 )
> > > [51]   2088.74510 a.u.^3 (   309.52009 Ang^3 )
> > > [52] new unit-cell volume =   2070.02859 a.u.^3 (   306.74659 Ang^3 )
> > > [52]   2088.85865 a.u.^3 (   309.53691 Ang^3 )
> > > [53] new unit-cell volume =   2066.04858 a.u.^3 (   306.15681 Ang^3 )
> > > [53]   2088.20078 a.u.^3 (   309.43943 Ang^3 )
> > > [54] new unit-cell volume =   2061.21037 a.u.^3 (   305.43986 Ang^3 )
> > > [54]   2085.25660 a.u.^3 (   309.00314 Ang^3 )
> > > [55] new unit-cell volume =   2058.58741 a.u.^3 (   305.05118 Ang^3 )
> > > [55]   2080.16617 a.u.^3 (   308.24882 Ang^3 )
> > > [56] new unit-cell volume =   2054.42953 a.u.^3 (   304.43504 Ang^3 )
> > > [56]   2074.14518 a.u.^3 (   307.35660 Ang^3 )
> > > [57] new unit-cell volume =   2054.24848 a.u.^3 (   304.40821 Ang^3 )
> > > [57]   2064.48193 a.u.^3 (   305.92466 Ang^3 )
> > > [58] new unit-cell volume =   2053.77333 a.u.^3 (   304.33780 Ang^3 )
> > > [58]   2051.00842 a.u.^3 (   303.92809 Ang^3 )
> > > [59] new unit-cell volume =   2054.07492 a.u.^3 (   304.38250 Ang^3 )
> > > [59]   2041.14648 a.u.^3 (   302.46670 Ang^3 )
> > > [60] new unit-cell volume =   2058.59233 a.u.^3 (   305.05191 Ang^3 )
> > > [60]   2038.54028 a.u.^3 (   302.08050 Ang^3 )
> > > [61] new unit-cell volume =   2058.36374 a.u.^3 (   305.01803 Ang^3 )
> > > [61]   2040.74343 a.u.^3 (   302.40697 Ang^3 )
> > > [62] new unit-cell volume =   2058.36374 a.u.^3 (   305.01803 Ang^3 )
> > > [62]   2045.70626 a.u.^3 (   303.14239 Ang^3 )
> > > [63] unit-cell volume          =    2058.3637 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
> > >           [63]   2045.70626 a.u.^3 (   303.14239 Ang^3 )
> > >           
> > >                            [64]    =    2045.7063 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
> > > And also:
> > >   pw.x 5.1.1
> > >   
> > >                         pw.x 4.3.2
> > > 
> > > [ 1]  unit-cell volume          =    1960.1695 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
> > >            [ 1]   =    1960.1695 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
> > > [ 2]  new unit-cell volume =   1959.31994 a.u.^3 (   290.34126 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 2]  1959.25962 a.u.^3 (   290.33232 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 3]  new unit-cell volume =   1958.53703 a.u.^3 (   290.22524 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 3]  1958.24276 a.u.^3 (   290.18164 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 4]  new unit-cell volume =   1957.26194 a.u.^3 (   290.03629 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 4]  1956.83874 a.u.^3 (   289.97358 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 5]  new unit-cell volume =   1955.57715 a.u.^3 (   289.78663 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 5]  1954.97243 a.u.^3 (   289.69702 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 6]  new unit-cell volume =   1953.25606 a.u.^3 (   289.44268 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 6]  1952.34070 a.u.^3 (   289.30704 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 7]  new unit-cell volume =   1949.69460 a.u.^3 (   288.91493 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 7]  1949.10416 a.u.^3 (   288.82743 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 8]  new unit-cell volume =   1947.54165 a.u.^3 (   288.59589 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 8]  1945.65216 a.u.^3 (   288.31590 Ang^3 )
> > > [ 9]  new unit-cell volume =   1944.65689 a.u.^3 (   288.16842 Ang^3 )
> >  
> >  [
> >  
> > > 9]  1941.13802 a.u.^3 (   287.64697 Ang^3 )
> > > [10]  new unit-cell volume =   1940.96635 a.u.^3 (   287.62153 Ang^3 )
> > > [10]  1939.06064 a.u.^3 (   287.33914 Ang^3 )
> > > [11]  new unit-cell volume =   1939.90715 a.u.^3 (   287.46458 Ang^3 )
> > > [11]  1938.65781 a.u.^3 (   287.27944 Ang^3 )
> > > [12]  new unit-cell volume =   1939.26844 a.u.^3 (   287.36993 Ang^3 )
> > > [12]  1938.21336 a.u.^3 (   287.21358 Ang^3 )
> > > [13]  new unit-cell volume =   1937.86399 a.u.^3 (   287.16181 Ang^3 )
> > > [13]  1936.17781 a.u.^3 (   286.91195 Ang^3 )
> > > [14]  new unit-cell volume =   1936.35258 a.u.^3 (   286.93784 Ang^3 )
> > > [14]  1934.16215 a.u.^3 (   286.61326 Ang^3 )
> > > [15]  new unit-cell volume =   1934.47381 a.u.^3 (   286.65944 Ang^3 )
> > > [15]  1932.10493 a.u.^3 (   286.30841 Ang^3 )
> > > [16]  new unit-cell volume =   1932.63674 a.u.^3 (   286.38721 Ang^3 )
> > > [16]  1930.22378 a.u.^3 (   286.02965 Ang^3 )
> > > [17]  new unit-cell volume =   1930.23334 a.u.^3 (   286.03107 Ang^3 )
> > > [17]  1927.83544 a.u.^3 (   285.67574 Ang^3 )
> > > [18]  new unit-cell volume =   1926.68480 a.u.^3 (   285.50523 Ang^3 )
> > > [18]  1924.38618 a.u.^3 (   285.16461 Ang^3 )
> > > [19]  new unit-cell volume =   1922.08253 a.u.^3 (   284.82324 Ang^3 )
> > > [19]  1920.03850 a.u.^3 (   284.52035 Ang^3 )
> > > [20]  new unit-cell volume =   1918.60656 a.u.^3 (   284.30816 Ang^3 )
> > > [20]  1918.67621 a.u.^3 (   284.31848 Ang^3 )
> > > [21]  new unit-cell volume =   1917.76107 a.u.^3 (   284.18287 Ang^3 )
> > > [21]  1917.87993 a.u.^3 (   284.20048 Ang^3 )
> > > [22]  new unit-cell volume =   1917.99827 a.u.^3 (   284.21802 Ang^3 )
> > > [22]  1918.22644 a.u.^3 (   284.25183 Ang^3 )
> > > [23]  new unit-cell volume =   1917.99827 a.u.^3 (   284.21802 Ang^3 )
> > > [23]  1918.22644 a.u.^3 (   284.25183 Ang^3 )
> > > [24]  unit-cell volume          =    1917.9983 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
> > >            [24]   =    1918.2264 (a.u.)^3
> > > 
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> > - Article 2 - Le but de toute association politique
> > est la conservation des droits naturels et
> > imprescriptibles de l'homme. Ces droits sont la libertè,
> > la propriètè, la sùretè et la rèsistance à l'oppression.
> > ********************************************************
> > 
> >    Giuseppe Mattioli
> >    CNR - ISTITUTO DI STRUTTURA DELLA MATERIA
> >    v. Salaria Km 29,300 - C.P. 10
> >    I 00015 - Monterotondo Stazione (RM)
> >    Tel + 39 06 90672836 - Fax +39 06 90672316
> >    E-mail: <giuseppe.mattioli at ism.cnr.it>
> >    http://www.ism.cnr.it/english/staff/mattiolig
> >    ResearcherID: F-6308-2012
> > 
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- Article premier - Les hommes naissent et demeurent
libres et ègaux en droits. Les distinctions sociales
ne peuvent être fondèes que sur l'utilitè commune
- Article 2 - Le but de toute association politique
est la conservation des droits naturels et 
imprescriptibles de l'homme. Ces droits sont la libertè,
la propriètè, la sùretè et la rèsistance à l'oppression.
********************************************************

   Giuseppe Mattioli                            
   CNR - ISTITUTO DI STRUTTURA DELLA MATERIA   
   v. Salaria Km 29,300 - C.P. 10                
   I 00015 - Monterotondo Stazione (RM)          
   Tel + 39 06 90672836 - Fax +39 06 90672316    
   E-mail: <giuseppe.mattioli at ism.cnr.it>
   http://www.ism.cnr.it/english/staff/mattiolig
   ResearcherID: F-6308-2012




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