[Pw_forum] Constrained magnetic calculation

Gabriele Sclauzero gabriele.sclauzero at mat.ethz.ch
Tue Mar 4 14:48:12 CET 2014


What about the evolution of the constrained magnetization?
(Please also make sure that the values specified in 
starting_magnetization make sense, as suggested by L. Paulatto Sir).

My suggestion was to vary lambda in small steps (say 0.5). I'm surprised 
that you managed to converge the calculation with such high lambda values.

Anyway, the constrain energy looks way too large, your system is 
probably still far from the target.


GS

On 03/04/2014 01:57 PM, paresh rout wrote:
> Respected Sclauzero   sir,
>   Thanks for your reply. According to your suggestion, I varied my 
> Lambda value from 0,5,.......150 ry. Although calculated constrained 
> energy are decreasing but upto 150 ry the constrained energy and the 
> estimated scf accuracy are not the same order. Here I am providing my 
> constrained energy with various lambda value.
>
> Lambda      Constraint_Energy
> 0           0.00000000
> 5           36.93411685
> 10          69.54815816
> 15          6.65653915   estimated scf accuracy    < 7.6E-13 Ry
> 20          7.88546052
> 25          8.88385707
> 30          9.71513061
> 35          10.42697250
> 40          11.05006563
> 45          11.60072229
> 50          12.08887057
> 70          13.54966033
> 80          14.05546257
> 90          14.45159513
> 100         14.75974550
> 110         14.99680383
> 120         15.17624003
> 130         15.30876396
> 140         15.40310437         estimated scf accuracy <          
> 9.9E-13 Ry
> 150         15.46632278          estimated scf accuracy <          
> 9.9E-13 Ry
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Sclauzero Gabriele 
> <gabriele.sclauzero at mat.ethz.ch 
> <mailto:gabriele.sclauzero at mat.ethz.ch>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Paresh,
>
>          in my understanding you should start with a very small lambda
>     value (e.g. 0.1), make sure the calculation has converged (not
>     always trivial), then restart with a larger value.
>     It is important to tune the steps by which you increase lambda.
>     Increasing it by steps of 5 seems too much to me, I would suggest
>     you to try much smaller steps, say between 0.1 and 0.5.
>
>     There are two reasons why the energy increases: the first is
>     because you are constraining your system out of its ground state,
>     but that's exactly what one would expect. The other is the
>     contribution from the penalty energy (E_constrain, it should be
>     printed after each scf step), which is used to impose the constraint.
>     An important thing is that this energy term is not physical and
>     becomes negligible once your system reaches the target
>     state.Therefore one should monitor this constraint energy,
>     together with the constrained quantity, and make sure it goes to
>     zero at some point.
>
>     Once lambda is large enough and you reached the targeted state,
>     E_constrain should be negligible w.r.t. the total energy and of
>     the same order of the estimated scf accuracy. From that point on,
>     the energy should not change if you further increase lambda,
>     because your system fulfills (almost) exactly the constraint, so
>     that E_constrain should stay to a very low value.
>
>     HTH
>
>
>     GS
>
>     Respected Lorenzo sir,
>                     Thanks for your replay but my question was how to
>     fix the proper LAMBDA value for any constrained system as the
>     energy is increasing with increase in lambda value.Please suggest
>     me something regarding lambda.
>
>
>
>     On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Lorenzo Paulatto
>     <lorenzo.paulatto at impmc.upmc.fr
>     <mailto:lorenzo.paulatto at impmc.upmc.fr><mailto:lorenzo.paulatto at impmc.upmc.fr
>     <mailto:lorenzo.paulatto at impmc.upmc.fr>>> wrote:
>     On 03/03/2014 12:39 PM, paresh rout wrote:
>     Dear all,
>              I am doing  spin polarized  calculations on a
>     multiferroic compound . In some cases I am doing constrained
>     magnetic calculations to get the Low-spin and High-spin state .
>     For this I am using
>         constrained_magnetization='atomic'
>         starting_magnetization(1) = 5.0
>         starting_magnetization(2) = -3.0
>         starting_magnetization(3) = 0.0
>         starting_magnetization(4) = 0.0
>              lambda =0,5,10,20,25,........etc
>
>
>
>      +--------------------------------------------------------------------
>        Variable:       starting_magnetization(i), i=1,ntyp
>
>        Type:           REAL
>        Description:    starting spin polarization on atomic type 'i'
>     in a spin
>                        polarized calculation. Values range between -1
>     (all spins
>                        down for the valence electrons of atom type
>     'i') to 1
>                        (all spins up). Breaks the symmetry and
>     provides a starting
>                        point for self-consistency. The default value
>     is zero, BUT a
>                        value MUST be specified for AT LEAST one atomic
>     type in spin
>                        polarized calculations, unless you constrain
>     the magnetization
>                        (see "tot_magnetization" and
>     "constrained_magnetization").
>                        Note that if you start from zero initial
>     magnetization, you
>                        will invariably end up in a nonmagnetic (zero
>     magnetization)
>                        state. If you want to start from an
>     antiferromagnetic state,
>                        you may need to define two different atomic species
>                        corresponding to sublattices of the same atomic
>     type.
>                        starting_magnetization is ignored if you are
>     performing a
>                        non-scf calculation, if you are restarting from
>     a previous
>                        run, or restarting from an interrupted run.
>                        If you fix the magnetization with
>     "tot_magnetization",
>                        you should not specify starting_magnetization.
>      +--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>     kind regards
>
>
>     --
>     Dr. Lorenzo Paulatto
>     IdR @ IMPMC -- CNRS & Université Paris 6
>     phone:+33 (0)1 44275 084 / skype: paulatz
>     www: http://www-int.impmc.upmc.fr/~paulatto/
>     <http://www-int.impmc.upmc.fr/%7Epaulatto/>
>     mail: 23-24/4é16 Boîte courrier 115, 4 place Jussieu 75252 Paris
>     Cédex 5
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