[Pw_forum] NEB restart from scratch

paolo paoli100 thesis.outputfiles at gmail.com
Sat Nov 23 19:43:39 CET 2013


Dear all pw users,



I performed neb calculations (espresso-5.0.2) with a 25 Ry cutoff and a 6 6
1 k-points grid.

After reaching convergence, with the error on each image lower than the
selected threshold, I tried to refine my calculations by increasing the
cutoff up to 40 Ry, and by using more k-points (8 8 1 grid).

Converged neb (25 Ry)

     ------------------------------ iteration  39
------------------------------



     cpu =  0   tcpu =  23906.3    self-consistency for image   2

     cpu =  0   tcpu =  23978.2    self-consistency for image   4

     cpu =  0   tcpu =  24086.9    self-consistency for image   6

     cpu =  0   tcpu =  24200.3    self-consistency for image   8

     cpu =  0   tcpu =  24308.2    self-consistency for image  10



     activation energy (->) =   0.894658 eV

     activation energy (<-) =   0.836243 eV



     image        energy (eV)        error (eV/A)        frozen



         1     -19891.2503277            0.071116            T

         2     -19891.2158612            0.049589            F

         3     -19891.1523863            0.188484            F

         4     -19891.0150938            0.162087            F

         5     -19890.9987459            0.191508            F

         6     -19890.8817497            0.106483            F

         7     -19890.6985072            0.123973            F

         8     -19890.4818044            0.093420            F

         9     -19890.3556701            0.086773            F

        10     -19890.5472740            0.113798            F

        11     -19891.1235293            0.166418            F

        12     -19891.1919133            0.070926            T



     climbing image =  9



     path length          = 10.335 bohr

     inter-image distance =  0.940 bohr




---------------------------------------------------------------------------



     neb: convergence achieved in  39 iterations



     NEB          :     6h39m CPU        6h46m WALL





   This run was terminated on:   7:53:22   3Jul2013



=------------------------------------------------------------------------------=

   JOB DONE.

=------------------------------------------------------------------------------=





So, I created a new input file with the new values of these parameters
(cutoff and k-points grid), and I copied the atomic coordinates from the
.crd file, of the converged path with 25 Ry and 6 6 1 grid. Then, I ran
neb.x with the restart mode: “from_scratch”. Unfortunately the first
iteration of the new neb simulation, with 40 Ry, showed very large forces.



     ------------------------------ iteration   1
------------------------------



     cpu =  0   tcpu =      6.6    self-consistency for image   1

     cpu =  0   tcpu =    281.5    self-consistency for image   2

     cpu =  0   tcpu =    559.0    self-consistency for image   4

     cpu =  0   tcpu =    832.1    self-consistency for image   6

     cpu =  0   tcpu =   1092.8    self-consistency for image   8

     cpu =  0   tcpu =   1365.2    self-consistency for image  10



     activation energy (->) =  38.645703 eV

     activation energy (<-) =  38.552298 eV



     image        energy (eV)        error (eV/A)        frozen



         1     -19892.5055371            0.008676            T

         2     -19892.4796891            0.244186            F

         3     -19892.4470814            0.232055            F

         4     -19892.3936725            0.309786            F

         5     -19892.2598441            0.174595            F

         6     -19892.2326900            0.376662            F

         7     -19892.1508214            0.237737            F

         8     -19891.9033607            0.629380            F

         9     -19891.5413520            1.554399            F

        10     -19890.5368565           23.555285            F

        11     -19853.8598346          268.470304            F

        12     -19892.4121325            0.021811            T



     climbing image = 11



     path length          = 11.793 bohr

     inter-image distance =  1.072 bohr



I don’t know why so huge forces appeared since my initial path is the
converged path with a 25 Ry cutoff, I think the cutoff may affect forces,
but what about the restart mode “from_scratch”?



So I even tried to run the same inputfile with a 25 Ry cutoff and 6 6 1
k-points grid. Since the initial path is the converged path with 25 Ry and
6 6 1 k-points (copy and paste from .crd file) , my neb calculation should
converge after one iteration, instead I have large forces:



 ------------------------------ iteration   1 ------------------------------



     cpu =  0   tcpu =      3.5    self-consistency for image   1

     cpu =  0   tcpu =    268.4    self-consistency for image   2

     cpu =  0   tcpu =    522.8    self-consistency for image   4

     cpu =  0   tcpu =    773.8    self-consistency for image   6

     cpu =  0   tcpu =   1020.3    self-consistency for image   8

     cpu =  0   tcpu =   1270.4    self-consistency for image  10



     activation energy (->) =  38.753850 eV

     activation energy (<-) =  38.695436 eV



     image        energy (eV)        error (eV/A)        frozen



         1     -19891.2503277            0.071116            T

         2     -19891.2304040            0.241051            F

         3     -19891.2049038            0.226864            F

         4     -19891.1588213            0.318751            F

         5     -19891.0267566            0.158294            F

         6     -19891.0032580            0.382541            F

         7     -19890.9283308            0.232692            F

         8     -19890.6852427            0.655155            F

         9     -19890.3234875            1.547988            F

        10     -19889.3355302           23.552337            F

        11     -19852.4964773          269.371205            F

        12     -19891.1919133            0.070926            T



     climbing image = 11



     path length          = 11.793 bohr

     inter-image distance =  1.072 bohr





Could anyone tell me how QE computes forces at iteration number 1, if the
restart mode is from scratch?

How can I deal with this problem?

Thanks to all,

Luca Dietz

Ph.D. student in Chemical Engineering

Politecnico di Milano, Italy
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