[Pw_forum] NEB: wild changes in image energies

Layla Martin-Samos lmartinsamos at gmail.com
Fri Dec 30 17:32:33 CET 2011


Dear Chad, as the energy barrier is very very very small maybe the use of
freezing causes the algorithm to have more instabilities.

bests

Layla

2011/12/29 Chad Junkermeier <junkermeier at yahoo.com>

> Hello,
>  I have a problem that I keep encountering when performing NEB
> calculations.  I will briefly describe what is happening here, and then
> give a more detailed explanation below.  In short, the NEB calculations
> appear to run well for some number of iterations (usually on the order of
> 40 or 50 iterations) and then all of the sudden weird image energies start
> showing up, and the activation energy starts jumping around with each
> iteration.
>
>
>
> More detailed explanation:
>
> Physically what I am trying to do is model the diffusion of a small
> molecule across a graphene surface.  This molecule is only weakly absorbed
> (physisorbed) onto the surface, thus, the activation energy is going to be
> rather small.  Our relaxation calculations show that van der Waals type
> interactions are important in this system, as should be expected for
> something that is weakly absorbed.  In the NEB calculation the molecule is
> going from one lowest energy site to a neighboring lowest energy site that
> is only a few angstroms away, all of which is well within the bounds of the
> supercell.
>
> I am using Quantum Espresso 4.3.2 on a Cray XE6.
>
>
> My input file looks like this:
>
> BEGIN
> BEGIN_PATH_INPUT
> &PATH
>   restart_mode      = 'from_scratch'
>   string_method     = 'neb',
>   ds                = 2.D0,
>   opt_scheme        = "broyden",
>   num_of_images     = 45,
>   k_max             = 0.3D0,
>   k_min             = 0.2D0,
>   CI_scheme         = "auto",
>   nstep_path=3000,
>   use_freezing = .TRUE.
>   first_last_opt = .FALSE.
> /
> END_PATH_INPUT
> BEGIN_ENGINE_INPUT
> &CONTROL
> prefix="TW2_u_B3_B4",
> pseudo_dir  = "/espresso/pseudo",
> outdir      = "/workspace/TW2_u_B3_B4/tmp",
> /
> &SYSTEM
>   ibrav = 4,
>   celldm(1)   = 37.2672889,
>   celldm(3)   =  0.760623,
>   nat         = 144,
>   ntyp        = 4,
> ecutwfc     = 50.0,
> ecutrho     = 400,
> occupations = "smearing",
> smearing    = "methfessel-paxton",
> degauss     = 0.01,
> london      = .TRUE.
> /
> &ELECTRONS
> conv_thr    = 0.0000001,
> mixing_beta = 0.3,
> electron_maxstep = 150,
> /
> ATOMIC_SPECIES
> C  12.0  C.pbe-van_ak.UPF
> H   1.0  H.pbe-van_ak.UPF
> O  18.0  O.pbe-van_ak.UPF
> P  31.0  P.pbe-van_ak.UPF
> BEGIN_POSITIONS
> FIRST_IMAGE
> ATOMIC_POSITIONS angstrom
> C        0.000000000   0.000000000   0.000000000    0   0   0
> C        1.234000000   0.710000000   0.000000000    0   0   0
> C        2.465000000   0.000000000   0.000000000    0   0   0
> C        3.699000000   0.710000000   0.000000000    0   0   0
> C        4.930000000   0.000000000   0.000000000    0   0   0
> .
> .
> .
> LAST_IMAGE
> ATOMIC_POSITIONS angstrom
> .
> .
> .
> H       12.789295543  12.155855132   2.858948537
> H       13.430079977  11.427859045   4.385644094
> H       14.299090315  11.190357788   2.820979411
> END_POSITIONS
> K_POINTS {gamma}
> END_ENGINE_INPUT
> END
>
> While I didn't include all of the atoms in here (since there are a lot,
> and I don't think this is necessarily to the resolution problem), I will
> note that the majority of the atoms will not move appreciably during the
> course of the calculation, and thus to speed up the calculation I tell the
> code to fix the positions of the atoms that aren't moving.
>
> I started off with values that I thought would help the code run quicker:
> conv_thr    = 0.00001
> ecutwfc     = 30.0,
> ecutrho     = 280,
> num_of_images     = 15,
> electron_maxstep = 100,
>
> After finding the problem that I am writing here about, and reading
> everything I could find on the QE website, and within pw_forum, I slowly
> made changes trying to work through the problem.  Having the number of
> images set to 45 in the above input file has many more images than I think
> I need, but one of the things that I kept reading is that having more
> images will decrease the likelihood of problems arising.
>
>
> After the first few NEB iterations a nice potential barrier curve appears
> and is slowly refined.  An example of the standard output for one of the
> well behaved images is given below:
>
>      ------------------------------ iteration  44
> ------------------------------
>
>      tcpu =  61713.9    self-consistency for image  10
>      tcpu =  61932.1    self-consistency for image  21
>      tcpu =  62113.6    self-consistency for image  28
>      tcpu =  62294.4    self-consistency for image  31
>
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (<-) =   0.044011 eV
>
>      image        energy (eV)        error (eV/A)        frozen
>
>          1     -21959.2382129            0.081337            T
>          2     -21959.2388966            0.020923            T
>          3     -21959.2381194            0.123092            T
>          4     -21959.2363069            0.164123            F
>          5     -21959.2352170            0.044025            T
>          6     -21959.2331629            0.220840            F
>          7     -21959.2301578            0.115291            T
>          8     -21959.2277497            0.199382            F
>          9     -21959.2256241            0.037564            T
>         10     -21959.2216078            0.257680            F
>         11     -21959.2173790            0.220445            F
>         12     -21959.2159181            0.195525            F
>         13     -21959.2122799            0.189871            F
>         14     -21959.2093498            0.070035            T
>         15     -21959.2075466            0.156424            F
>         16     -21959.2037818            0.237338            F
>         17     -21959.2013877            0.059399            T
>         18     -21959.2006768            0.168875            F
>         19     -21959.1986806            0.049577            T
>         20     -21959.1962718            0.054413            T
>         21     -21959.1966851            0.022074            T
>         22     -21959.1954724            0.053047            T
>         23     -21959.1942736            0.054956            T
>         24     -21959.1944583            0.140762            F
>         25     -21959.1964535            0.032502            T
>         26     -21959.1950797            0.210304            F
>         27     -21959.1987196            0.051561            T
>         28     -21959.2008371            0.031058            T
>         29     -21959.2005944            0.183532            F
>         30     -21959.2045923            0.059183            T
>         31     -21959.2074746            0.148483            F
>         32     -21959.2094894            0.139970            F
>         33     -21959.2129334            0.033060            T
>         34     -21959.2156972            0.237590            F
>         35     -21959.2188749            0.065209            T
>         36     -21959.2223341            0.020410            T
>         37     -21959.2256989            0.041502            T
>         38     -21959.2278845            0.206609            F
>         39     -21959.2309458            0.064352            T
>         40     -21959.2333476            0.228702            F
>         41     -21959.2354058            0.034633            T
>         42     -21959.2369634            0.053540            T
>         43     -21959.2383146            0.179708            F
>         44     -21959.2390413            0.052827            T
>         45     -21959.2382847            0.084999            T
>
>      climbing image = 23
>
>      path length          = 18.663 bohr
>      inter-image distance =  0.424 bohr
>
>
> If you were to plot the image number versus the energy that is given above
> you would find what appears to be a very well behaved curve.
>
>
> But after a while, all of the sudden, there is a problem with the output.
>
>
>
>      ------------------------------ iteration  45
> ------------------------------
>
>      tcpu =  62502.4    self-consistency for image   4
>      tcpu =  62758.1    self-consistency for image   6
>      tcpu =  63006.7    self-consistency for image   8
>      tcpu =  63287.9    self-consistency for image  10
>      tcpu =  63556.1    self-consistency for image  11
>      tcpu =  63876.3    self-consistency for image  12
>      tcpu =  64126.9    self-consistency for image  13
>      tcpu =  64409.9    self-consistency for image  15
>      tcpu =  64661.2    self-consistency for image  16
>      tcpu =  64941.7    self-consistency for image  18
>      tcpu =  65190.6    self-consistency for image  24
>      tcpu =  65480.1    self-consistency for image  26
>      tcpu =  65780.1    self-consistency for image  29
>      tcpu =  66077.9    self-consistency for image  31
>      tcpu =  66317.9    self-consistency for image  32
>      tcpu =  66580.4    self-consistency for image  34
>      tcpu =  66857.5    self-consistency for image  38
>      tcpu =  67137.2    self-consistency for image  40
>      tcpu =  67386.9    self-consistency for image  43
>
>      activation energy (->) =   0.287582 eV
>      activation energy (<-) =   0.287654 eV
>
>      image        energy (eV)        error (eV/A)        frozen
>
>          1     -21959.2382129            0.081337            T
>          2     -21959.2388966            0.020929            T
>          3     -21959.2381194            0.128767            T
>          4     -21959.1561960            2.016407            T
>          5     -21959.2352170            0.054181            T
>          6     -21959.1233419            3.440925            F
>          7     -21959.2301578            0.119857            T
>          8     -21959.1295895            3.858443            F
>          9     -21959.2256241            0.031368            T
>         10     -21959.2007906            0.830489            T
>         11     -21958.9506305            4.210877            F
>         12     -21959.1226848            2.774980            F
>         13     -21959.1255613            3.306542            F
>         14     -21959.2093498            0.063904            T
>         15     -21959.1425146            2.576069            F
>         16     -21959.0686534            4.452463            F
>         17     -21959.2013877            0.051986            T
>         18     -21959.1237018            2.915400            F
>         19     -21959.1986806            0.070271            T
>         20     -21959.1962718            0.055066            T
>         21     -21959.1966851            0.022251            T
>         22     -21959.1954724            0.053511            T
>         23     -21959.1942736            0.155528            T
>         24     -21959.0321128            1.669573            T
>         25     -21959.1964535            0.033436            T
>         26     -21958.9641160            2.813188            F
>         27     -21959.1987196            0.170191            T
>         28     -21959.2008371            0.119487            T
>         29     -21959.0410354            2.100854            T
>         30     -21959.2045923            0.217405            T
>         31     -21959.2006761            0.946770            T
>         32     -21959.1091999            2.022318            T
>         33     -21959.2129334            0.033922            T
>         34     -21959.0832736            3.736941            F
>         35     -21959.2188749            0.136602            T
>         36     -21959.2223341            0.033429            T
>         37     -21959.2256989            0.038111            T
>         38     -21959.1226548            4.018138            F
>         39     -21959.2309458            0.068887            T
>         40     -21959.1163356            3.540681            F
>         41     -21959.2354058            0.069677            T
>         42     -21959.2369634            0.053677            T
>         43     -21959.1651795            2.854320            F
>         44     -21959.2390413            0.041340            T
>         45     -21959.2382847            0.084999            T
>
>      climbing image = 11
>
>      path length          = 19.063 bohr
>      inter-image distance =  0.433 bohr
>
>
> Where if you plot the image number versus the energy given above you will
> find that many of the points lay on the same curve as in the proceeding
> plot, but now almost half of them are jumping to higher energies.  When I
> look at the xyz output in VMD, there doesn't seem to be any change in what
> the images look like pre/post the start of iteration 45.
>
> I will now list some of  the activation energies produced towards the end
> of the run (I stopped the code once I saw this happening again).
>
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.046128 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.044786 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043951 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.044436 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.043939 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.287582 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.206100 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.601468 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.231222 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.216514 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.252992 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.289003 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.107865 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.154660 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.302177 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.154660 eV
>      activation energy (->) =   0.290079 eV
>
>
>
> You can see that the activation energy is fairly constant at about 0.04 eV
> for a while and then after a certain point bedlam.
>
>
> Any ideas would be welcome.
>
>
>
> Chad Junkermeier, Ph.D.
> NRC Post-Doctoral Associate
> U. S. Naval Research Laboratory
>
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