[Pw_forum] Pw_forum Digest, Vol 26, Issue 52

Shaptrishi Sharma sh.shapt at gmail.com
Wed Aug 19 15:54:44 CEST 2009


Hi Mike,

Thansk for your help, well I cannot understand your this point "Only allowed
40 optimization steps." How do we know that the optimisation steps are 40
and why??

Thanks

SS

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>    1. point charge (ali kazempour)
>    2. Re: point charge (xirainbow)
>    3. PseudoPotential for Ce? (Neel Singh)
>    4. Re: PseudoPotential for Ce? (Stefano Fabris)
>    5. Relax calculation in quantum espresso with 56 atoms had   not
>       been converged (Shaptrishi Sharma)
>    6. Re: Relax calculation in quantum espresso with 56 atoms had
>       not been converged (Lorenzo Paulatto)
>    7. Re: point charge (Paolo Giannozzi)
>    8. Re: point charge (Stefano Fabris)
>    9. Re: Relax calculation in quantum espresso with 56 atoms had
>       not been converged (Michael Sullivan)
>   10. insufficient virtual memory (Raji Abdulrafiu)
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:39:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ali kazempour <kazempoor2000 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Pw_forum] point charge
> To: pw <pw_forum at pwscf.org>
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> Hi
> I want to know if? espresso? can do charged vacancy calculation or not? I
> know about isolated atoms but I am not sure about big bulk supercell?
> If it can, how we can put the charge on the right position of the
> vacancy(which constraint should we introduced)?
> another question, Could anyone introduced me some reference about screening
> effect around the point defect?
> thanks a lot
>
> Ali Kazempour
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> From: xirainbow <nkxirainbow at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] point charge
> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org>
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> Dear Ali Kazempour:
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>    I want to know if  espresso  can do charged vacancy calculation or not?
> I
> > know about isolated atoms but I am not sure about big bulk supercell?
> >
> I found the following content at
> http://ammin.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/full/91/4/511
> "First-principles calculations within the local density and
> pseudopotential approximations
> were performed to investigate the effects of pressure on the energetics and
> structural behavior of *charged vacancy* defects in MgO. The simulations
> were *performed for a supercell* containing 216 atoms with their positions
> being fully optimized.Calculations were performed using the parallel
> code *PWscf
> *"
> As I never did this kind of calculation, I can not give you  more advice :)
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:20:15 +0530 (IST)
> From: Neel Singh <neelphysics at yahoo.in>
> Subject: [Pw_forum] PseudoPotential for Ce?
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> hi all,
> I want to study  Ce and its compound, but I don't have any PP of Ce, I
> don't know about PP
> generation or convert PP. I have searched the forum that Stefano Fabris Sir
> has provided this PP to some people.
>   Could anyone of you send me a copy of PP for Ce?
> Thanks
> With regards.
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:57:08 +0200
> From: Stefano Fabris <fabris at democritos.it>
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] PseudoPotential for Ce?
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> Dear Neel,
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> here is a link to my previous post concerning this issue.
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> http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/2009-March/012235.html
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> Hope it helps.
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> Yours sincerely,
>                         Stefano
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> On 19 Aug 2009, at 10:50, Neel Singh wrote:
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> > hi all,
> > I want to study  Ce and its compound, but I don't have any PP of Ce,
> > I don't know about PP
> > generation or convert PP. I have searched the forum that Stefano
> > Fabris Sir has provided this PP to some people.
> >   Could anyone of you send me a copy of PP for Ce?
> > Thanks
> > With regards.
> > Neel singh ,
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> > India
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:13:28 +0100
> From: Shaptrishi Sharma <sh.shapt at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Pw_forum] Relax calculation in quantum espresso with 56
>         atoms had       not been converged
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> Hi ,
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> I have submitted one relax calculation for 56 atoms in quantum espresso ,
> however after 39 iterations it stops without any further informations, nor
> even a CRASH file. So any body can suggest me what the possible reason?
>
> Thanks
> SS
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:20:35 +0200
> From: "Lorenzo Paulatto" <paulatto at sissa.it>
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Relax calculation in quantum espresso with 56
>         atoms had not been converged
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> In data 19 agosto 2009 alle ore 11:13:28, Shaptrishi Sharma
> <sh.shapt at gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > even a CRASH file. So any body can suggest me what the possible reason?
>
> Dear Shaptrishi,
> you need to provide more detail if you want a meaningful answer. At least
> the last 500 lines of job's output.
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> best regards
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:35:55 +0200
> From: Paolo Giannozzi <giannozz at democritos.it>
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] point charge
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> On Wednesday 19 August 2009 10:39, ali kazempour wrote:
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> > I want to know if? espresso? can do charged vacancy calculation or not?
>
> it can
>
> >  how we can put the charge on the right position of the vacancy
>
> we cannot. The additional charge will go where it will like to go.
>
> Paolo
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:37:32 +0200
> From: Stefano Fabris <fabris at democritos.it>
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] point charge
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> Dear Ali,
>
> you have to give a deeper thought on your concept of "putting the
> charge in the right position". In standard calculations this is a
> result not an input. As a specific example in the defects you mention,
> think at ionic systems where the charge localization around a given
> defect is mainly (but not only) controlled by the Madelung potential.
> Note that in these systems a charged defect does not necessarily imply
> a charged supercell. But you are right, there are cases in which
> different charges can be associated to a given defect (think for
> example at F centers that can exists in several charge states), and
> here you do need charged supercells. QE can deals with these cases by
> specifying the number of electrons in the system, and adding a
> compensating uniform background. Note that in these cases,
> thermodynamic arguments allow for predicting which is the most stable
> defect in given environment conditions. There are several studies
> about this issues (including the screening), the first ones I found in
> my records are these for ionic systems  PRB 68, 085110 (2003) and PRB
> 59, 797 (1999); and this one for semiconductors: PRL 67, 2339 (1991).
> These, and the references in within, should give you enough concepts
> (and keywords) to performs more focused literature research.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>                         Stefano
> On 19 Aug 2009, at 10:39, ali kazempour wrote:
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> > Hi
> > I want to know if  espresso  can do charged vacancy calculation or
> > not? I know about isolated atoms but I am not sure about big bulk
> > supercell?
> > If it can, how we can put the charge on the right position of the
> > vacancy(which constraint should we introduced)?
> > another question, Could anyone introduced me some reference about
> > screening effect around the point defect?
> > thanks a lot
> >
> > Ali Kazempour
> > Physics department, Isfahan University of Technology
> > 84156 Isfahan, Iran. Tel-1: +98 311 391 3733
> > Fax: +98 311 391 2376 Tel-2: +98 311 391 2375
> >
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> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:29:04 +0800
> From: Michael Sullivan <Michael at ihpc.a-star.edu.sg>
> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Relax calculation in quantum espresso with 56
>         atoms had       not been converged
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> My two guesses are:
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> (1) Ran out of time in the queue.
> (2) Only allowed 40 optimization steps.
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> That said, we need more information. Usually something will show up in the
> error file that will give us a hint.
>
> Mike
> michael at ihpc.a-star.edu.sg
> http://www.sullivan.sg/
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> From: pw_forum-bounces at pwscf.org [mailto:pw_forum-bounces at pwscf.org] On
> Behalf Of Shaptrishi Sharma
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:13 PM
> To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
> Subject: [Pw_forum] Relax calculation in quantum espresso with 56 atoms had
> not been converged
>
> Hi ,
>
> I have submitted one relax calculation for 56 atoms in quantum espresso ,
> however after 39 iterations it stops without any further informations, nor
> even a CRASH file. So any body can suggest me what the possible reason?
>
> Thanks
> SS
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:15:55 +0200
> From: Raji Abdulrafiu <tunderaji at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Pw_forum] insufficient virtual memory
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> Dear all,
>
> I am doing  PDOS calculation for system ( 776 electrons ) using the
> 'projwfc.x'. After some time, the error message below was written in
> my output error file.
> .....
> forrtl: severe (41): insufficient virtual memory
> Image              PC                Routine            Line
> Source
> projwfc.x          0000000000BF9C3A  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
> projwfc.x          0000000000BF8E3A  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
> projwfc.x          0000000000BAD71A  Unknown               Unknown  Unknown
>
> I read through the responses to similar problem from the pwscf forum.
> Following the recommended steps (by Profs. Eyvaz and Giannozzi), I
> reduced the 'ecutwfc'  and 'ecutrho'   from 35Ry & 450 to 30Ry and
> 350, respectively. The 'nbnd' was also reduced from 700 to 500. I set
> 'diagonalization = david', to save the CPU time. Also  "startingwfc"=
> ''atomic' (default).  Despite all these steps, the error persists, and
> I am just not sure of what to do again. I need help please!. I am
> using ver.4.0 of QE, and the calculation is being done using the
> CINECA parallel computers.
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Raji Abdulrafiu Tunde,
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