[Pw_forum] Electron-phonon coupling

Eyvaz Isaev eyvaz_isaev at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 30 09:34:16 CEST 2003


Dear all,

Now I am  trying to calculate the electron-phonon
coupling constant. According to the 7-th example the
code is able to calculate the EPC constant for an
arbitrary  k-point in the BZ (\lambda_{nk}).  I
followed this example and now I am calculating
\lambda_{nk} for a number of k-points in the 1/48 part
of the IBZ for FCC lattice (k-points are vertex of
small tetrahedra). Then I am going to integrate
\lambda_{nk} using the tetrahedron method.

So, I would like to ask you is this procedure correct?
If no, what should be done for this kind of
calculations?

Regards,
Eyvaz.  

    
--- Malgorzata Wierzbowska <wierzbom at tcd.ie> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Ma Yanming,
> 
> Find some of my results and look to attached files
> with Eliashberg function
> calculated for Nb with norm conserving PP (KB) and
> ultrasoft (US).
> Experimental total lambda is 1.04 or 1.22 (from refs
> in S.Y. Savrasov
> PRB, vol 54, p. 16487 (1996)), calculated by
> Savrasov 1.26.
> 
> As you can see from attached files KB PP behaves
> correctly
> but US gives too big total lambda. The reason is
> because
> Eliashberg function, in case of US, doesn't fall
> down to zero for small
> frequencies. Small frequencies are for phonon
> vectors close to Gamma point.
> However for first sight we calculate different
> quantities we still can
> make common
> conclusions. You integrate only over k, leaving
> q-dependence (phonon).
> I integrate over both k and q points, but with
> frequncy resolution (I
> see the relations
> between q-points and frequencies.).
> 
> The answer for the question whether you can just
> throw points is NO! It
> is not so easy,
> but we will get there. What I suggest is:
> If you could write a file with q-points you
> calculated and corresponding
> frequencies
> and corresponding calculated el-ph couplings. And if
> you could send me
> refs. to experimental
> values which you refer. Maybe we will see that one
> needs to work a bit
> more on generation of PP.
> Especially concentrating attention to get gamma
> point very close to zero.
> 
> I am satisfied with the KB PP attached here (format
> for old version of
> PWscf). And I was still
> working on getting US PP better. But now I don't
> have enough computer
> power to continue
> because I lost an account in my previous place and
> here I work on a
> different project.
> Maybe you can generate better pseudos. If you decide
> to do this for US
> PP, there is a parameter
> called "rinner" in Vanderbilt's input. Phonons at
> gamma point are very
> sensitive on that.
> 
> Good luck!
> Gosia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ma Yanming wrote:
> 
> > Dear Gosia
> >
> > Sorry for replying you so late. I'd already
> calculated the E_P
> > coupling for most of possible q vectors to try to
> analyze the results.
> > So It takes time. I use Norm-Conserving PPs. As
> what you said, for
> > some q vectors with small phonon frequencies, the
> calculated E_P
> > coupling is extremely large. I do not know why?
> >
> > I use 16 16 16 Monkshort-Pack K mesh to generate q
> points for BCC Nb.
> > At q point (0 -0.0625 0.1875) the E_P coupling is
> worst. For q points
> > as the following, the results are also bad
> > (0 -0.0625 0.4375)
> > (0 -0.125 0.5)
> > (0 -0.0625 0.3125)
> > (0 -0.125 0.375)
> > (0 -0.125 0.25)
> > (0 -0.1875 0.3125)
> > (-0.0625 -0.1875 0.25)
> > (-0.0625 -0.1875 0.375)
> > (-0.125 -0.1875 0.3125)
> > So Can I just pick out these unusual q vectors and
> then make average
> > over the left q points to get the E_P Coupling
> lambda. Or ...?
> 
> >
> >> It would help to check from which
> >> region at frequency axis it comes.
> >
> >
> > I do not quite understand the above sentence.Can
> you give me more
> > explanation?
> > Thanks in advance. 
> 
> >
> > Best Wishes!
> >
> > Yanming Ma PhD
> > Steacie Institute for Molecular Sciences,
> > National Research Councils of Canada.
> > 100 Sussex
> > K1A 0R6
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Malgorzata Wierzbowska <wierzbom at tcd.ie>
> >> Reply-To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
> >> To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Electron-phonon coupling
> >> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:03:41 +0000
> >>
> >>
> >> Which version of the program and what
> pseudopotentials do you use?
> >> If this is ultrasoft pseudopotetial then do as
> follows:
> >> Edit the file phonon.F (or phonon.f90) in phlib
> (or PH).
> >> Go to the end and you see the place when
> elph=.true..
> >> Write "call dvanqq" as it is below and recompile
> the program.
> >>
> >> if (elph) then
> >> call dvanqq
> >> if (.not.trans) call elphon
> >> call elphsum
> >> endif
> >>
> >> If pseudo is normconserving and you have too big
> el-ph couplings
> >> (with good phonon spectra) probably it happens at
> phonon vectors
> >> which have small frequencies.
> >> What exactly are the numbers? It would help to
> check from which
> >> region at frequency axis it comes.
> >> Which q-points are particularly bad?
> >>
> >> Gosia
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ma Yanming wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Paolo,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your reply.I do choose q points
> using Monkhorst-Pack K
> >> > mesh. But I am still upset. I already increased
> the K mesh to 48 48 48
> >> > when I calculated the EP coupling. To test the
> performance in several
> >> > high symmetry q if (elph) then points, I still
> got the results for
> >> > phonon linewidth far away from the experimental
> data, despite I
> >> > obtained the good results for phonon. :-(
> >> > Any comments?
> >> >
> >> > Best Wishes!
> >> >
> >> > Yanming Ma
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> > I have been puzzled by the calculation of
> the electron-phonon (EP)
> >> >> > coupling coefficient lambda using PWSCF
> >> >>
> >> >> me too...
> >> >>
> >> >> The calculation of the electron-phonon
> coupling coefficients
> >> >> is presently done using a simple but
> not-so-smart algorithm:
> >> >> for each phonon q one calculates \lambda(q),
> performing a
> >> >> (slowly convergent) sum over k of electronic
> states.
> 
=== message truncated ===> 
>                     freq au                freq. THz
>                  a2F(freq)
> 
>             1  1.0198717373890380E-003  
> 3.355202476562948         2.237529515947500
>             2  1.0596152121671143E-003  
> 3.485951667970094         1.499468581009689
>             3  1.0993586869451901E-003  
> 3.616700859377241         1.350706089637660
>             4  1.1391021617232664E-003  
> 3.747450050784387         1.787859730300818
>             5  1.1788456365013427E-003  
> 3.878199242191533         1.633521655247258
>             6  1.2185891112794187E-003  
> 4.008948433598680         2.422545868169372
>             7  1.2583325860574948E-003  
> 4.139697625005826         3.181579657060079
>             8  1.2980760608355710E-003  
> 4.270446816412972         4.775643794216762
>             9  1.3378195356136473E-003  
> 4.401196007820118         3.455151971299109
>            10  1.3775630103917234E-003  
> 4.531945199227264         3.660159841903176
>            11  1.4173064851697994E-003  
> 4.662694390634410         3.331080505617703
>            12  1.4570499599478756E-003  
> 4.793443582041556         2.385202990990981
>            13  1.4967934347259517E-003  
> 4.924192773448703         1.500343357387741
>            14  1.5365369095040275E-003  
> 5.054941964855849         1.361790472536797
>            15  1.5762803842821040E-003  
> 5.185691156262996         1.169814309637568
>            16  1.6160238590601801E-003  
> 5.316440347670142        0.9833931057291112
>            17  1.6557673338382564E-003  
> 5.447189539077288        0.9990683722507322
>            18  1.6955108086163322E-003  
> 5.577938730484434         1.020410393873696
>            19  1.7352542833944085E-003  
> 5.708687921891580         1.048469785644035
>            20  1.7749977581724847E-003  
> 5.839437113298726         2.040019807863810
>            21  1.8147412329505608E-003  
> 5.970186304705873         3.944271859907947
>            22  1.8544847077286368E-003  
> 6.100935496113019         3.898784584719331
>            23  1.8942281825067131E-003  
> 6.231684687520165         2.593718329665633
>            24  1.9339716572847889E-003  
> 6.362433878927312         1.059836321559148
>            25  1.9737151320628655E-003  
> 6.493183070334458        0.3946383516817085
>            26  2.0134586068409415E-003  
> 6.623932261741603        0.2963668772225613
>            27  2.0532020816190180E-003  
> 6.754681453148750        0.1797051121084532
>            28  2.0929455563970940E-003  
> 6.885430644555897        8.5976271291996138E-002
>            29  2.1326890311751696E-003  
> 7.016179835963042        6.8222080457730936E-002
>            30  2.1724325059532461E-003  
> 7.146929027370189        0.0000000000000000E+000
> 
>                Total lambda 2.98
> 
> 
> > 
>                     freq au                freq. THz
>                  a2F(freq)
> 
>             1  1.2438515240158456E-004 
> 0.4092057423356754        2.8869733143880708E-002
>             2  1.7315545720475367E-004 
> 0.5696516508351509        2.3385781074569358E-002
>             3  2.2192576200792278E-004 
> 0.7300975593346266        3.1993707502021920E-002
>             4  2.7069606681109186E-004 
> 0.8905434678341022        3.5713934152708573E-002
>             5  3.1946637161426099E-004  
> 1.050989376333578        6.1944858809984709E-002
>             6  3.6823667641743008E-004  
> 1.211435284833054        5.2590079578703453E-002
>             7  4.1700698122059920E-004  
> 1.371881193332529        7.4231431621878619E-002
>             8  4.6577728602376833E-004  
> 1.532327101832005        9.1897992378171267E-002
>             9  5.1454759082693746E-004  
> 1.692773010331480        9.6819575939830322E-002
>            10  5.6331789563010650E-004  
> 1.853218918830956        0.1076133627499602
>            11  6.1208820043327572E-004  
> 2.013664827330432        0.1174886803214625
>            12  6.6085850523644476E-004  
> 2.174110735829907        0.1334868819605516
>            13  7.0962881003961398E-004  
> 2.334556644329383        0.1172762277885431
>            14  7.5839911484278293E-004  
> 2.495002552828858        0.1601624697992450
>            15  8.0716941964595197E-004  
> 2.655448461328334        0.1496093643983267
>            16  8.5593972444912119E-004  
> 2.815894369827810        0.1926870865091957
>            17  9.0471002925229040E-004  
> 2.976340278327286        0.2265583611652895
>            18  9.5348033405545944E-004  
> 3.136786186826761        0.2342125536731038
>            19  1.0022506388586285E-003  
> 3.297232095326236        0.2536025477932173
>            20  1.0510209436617977E-003  
> 3.457678003825713        0.2969967638092281
>            21  1.0997912484649668E-003  
> 3.618123912325188        0.3988061602289276
>            22  1.1485615532681359E-003  
> 3.778569820824664        0.7690110504535764
>            23  1.1973318580713050E-003  
> 3.939015729324139        0.8837328494542188
>            24  1.2461021628744742E-003  
> 4.099461637823615         1.071354565294684
>            25  1.2948724676776433E-003  
> 4.259907546323091        0.7903395888522454
>            26  1.3436427724808127E-003  
> 4.420353454822566        0.5783290412553221
>            27  1.3924130772839816E-003  
> 4.580799363322042        0.5451969602494918
>            28  1.4411833820871505E-003  
> 4.741245271821517        0.6573407717215089
>            29  1.4899536868903196E-003  
> 4.901691180320993        0.4927796721997354
>            30  1.5387239916934887E-003  
> 5.062137088820468        0.4898505017287321
>            31  1.5874942964966579E-003  
> 5.222582997319944        0.4815007364165790
>            32  1.6362646012998272E-003  
> 5.383028905819420        0.4951156582318729
>            33  1.6850349061029959E-003  
> 5.543474814318896        0.6488168419863590
>            34  1.7338052109061652E-003  
> 5.703920722818371        0.9696502950376715
>            35  1.7825755157093339E-003  
> 5.864366631317846        0.9959555280125480
>            36  1.8313458205125034E-003  
> 6.024812539817323         1.016992835820577
>            37  1.8801161253156726E-003  
> 6.185258448316798        0.4001474208086026
>            38  1.9288864301188418E-003  
> 6.345704356816274        0.1898949853003984
>            39  1.9776567349220107E-003  
> 6.506150265315750        9.8287516753835096E-002
>            40  2.0264270397251796E-003  
> 6.666596173815225        0.0000000000000000E+000
> 
>            total lambda 1.178
> 
> 
> 
> > PZ                                                
> 'Nb' 5.0  2  2  3 .F.   0 .T.  ! **  41.0  Niobio
> transformed from BHS 
>  2.410000 0.820000 3.741900 -2.741900
>     0.830000    1.690000    2.010000
>   -0.721060000000000E+01  -0.373700000000000E+00 
> -0.185600000000000E+00
>    0.776000000000000E-01   0.762000000000000E-01  
> 0.198000000000000E-01
>     0.680000    1.030000    1.350000
>   -0.660260000000000E+01  -0.864000000000000E+00 
> -0.545200000000000E+00
>    0.161000000000000E-01   0.149000000000000E-01  
> 0.212000000000000E-01
>     3.620000    4.740000    5.570000
>   -0.238090000000000E+01   0.260200000000000E+00  
> 0.288000000000000E-01
>   -0.238000000000000E-01  -0.757000000000000E-01 
> -0.479000000000000E-01
>  41.00  -4.00000   0.06250  189    3
>  Wavefunction 5s
>     0  2.00
>   0.26558108E-04  0.28270959E-04  0.30094279E-04 
> 0.32035194E-04
>   0.34101287E-04  0.36300632E-04  0.38641823E-04 
> 0.41134008E-04
>   0.43786926E-04  0.46610943E-04  0.49617094E-04 
> 0.52817125E-04
>   0.56223542E-04  0.59849655E-04  0.63709632E-04 
> 0.67818559E-04
>   0.72192490E-04  0.76848517E-04  0.81804835E-04 
> 0.87080810E-04
>   0.92697060E-04  0.98675532E-04  0.10503959E-03 
> 0.11181409E-03
>   0.11902552E-03  0.12670206E-03  0.13487370E-03 
> 0.14357238E-03
>   0.15283209E-03  0.16268902E-03  0.17318169E-03 
> 0.18435110E-03
>   0.19624091E-03  0.20889758E-03  0.22237058E-03 
> 0.23671257E-03
>   0.25197961E-03  0.26823136E-03  0.28553136E-03 
> 0.30394722E-03
>   0.32355095E-03  0.34441917E-03  0.36663348E-03 
> 0.39028073E-03
>   0.41545339E-03  0.44224990E-03  0.47077506E-03 
> 0.50114045E-03
>   0.53346486E-03  0.56787476E-03  0.60450480E-03 
> 0.64349837E-03
>   0.68500811E-03  0.72919658E-03  0.77623687E-03 
> 0.82631328E-03
>   0.87962213E-03  0.93637243E-03  0.99678685E-03 
> 0.10611025E-02
>   0.11295721E-02  0.12024646E-02  0.12800668E-02 
> 0.13626842E-02
>   0.14506424E-02  0.15442884E-02  0.16439921E-02 
> 0.17501479E-02
>   0.18631765E-02  0.19835265E-02  0.21116766E-02 
> 0.22481379E-02
>   0.23934558E-02  0.25482131E-02  0.27130324E-02 
> 0.28885793E-02
>   0.30755660E-02  0.32747545E-02  0.34869613E-02 
> 0.37130613E-02
>   0.39539934E-02  0.42107658E-02  0.44844624E-02 
> 0.47762501E-02
>   0.50873863E-02  0.54192285E-02  0.57732446E-02 
> 0.61510242E-02
>   0.65542930E-02  0.69849276E-02  0.74449743E-02 
> 0.79366695E-02
>   0.84624643E-02  0.90250533E-02  0.96274074E-02 
> 0.10272813E-01
>   0.10964920E-01  0.11707793E-01  0.12505979E-01 
> 0.13364582E-01
>   0.14289356E-01  0.15286815E-01  0.16364359E-01 
> 0.17530436E-01
>   0.18794730E-01  0.20168383E-01  0.21664278E-01 
> 0.23297367E-01
>   0.25085075E-01  0.27047797E-01  0.29209494E-01 
> 0.31598425E-01
>   0.34248048E-01  0.37198109E-01  0.40495979E-01 
> 0.44198285E-01
>   0.48372884E-01  0.53101244E-01  0.58481297E-01 
> 0.64630783E-01
>   0.71691119E-01  0.79831726E-01  0.89254641E-01 
> 0.10019903E+00
>   0.11294490E+00  0.12781473E+00  0.14517091E+00 
> 0.16540587E+00
>   0.18892001E+00  0.21608170E+00  0.24716264E+00 
> 0.28224441E+00
>   0.32109894E+00  0.36305988E+00  0.40692163E+00 
> 0.45091914E+00
>   0.49283953E+00  0.53027893E+00  0.56099250E+00 
> 0.58322637E+00
>   0.59591709E+00  0.59871013E+00  0.59183987E+00 
> 0.57596317E+00
>   0.55202083E+00  0.52114959E+00  0.48462794E+00 
> 0.44383131E+00
>   0.40018329E+00  0.35510151E+00  0.30994084E+00 
> 0.26593959E+00
>   0.22417154E+00  0.18550756E+00  0.15058983E+00 
> 0.11982118E+00
>   0.93370566E-01  0.71193969E-01  0.53068182E-01 
> 0.38633497E-01
>   0.27440353E-01  0.18994996E-01  0.12799866E-01 
> 0.83857028E-02
>   0.53338812E-02  0.32889959E-02  0.19627937E-02 
> 0.11316214E-02
>   0.62882186E-03  0.33603430E-03  0.17237553E-03 
> 0.84683462E-04
>   0.39729852E-04  0.17746346E-04  0.75224748E-05 
> 0.30155030E-05
>   0.11389082E-05  0.40366301E-06  0.13369256E-06 
> 0.41189222E-07
>   0.11748275E-07  0.30861089E-08  0.74291650E-09 
> 0.16221986E-09
>   0.31184030E-10  0.00000000E+00  0.00000000E+00 
> 0.00000000E+00
>   0.00000000E+00
>  Wavefunction 5p
>     1  0.00
>   0.80423491E-08  0.91131754E-08  0.10326581E-07 
> 0.11701549E-07
>   0.13259602E-07  0.15025108E-07  0.17025690E-07 
> 0.19292649E-07
>   0.21861451E-07  0.24772288E-07  0.28070700E-07 
> 0.31808294E-07
>   0.36043545E-07  0.40842718E-07  0.46280897E-07 
> 0.52443165E-07
>   0.59425936E-07  0.67338458E-07  0.76304528E-07 
> 0.86464423E-07
>   0.97977103E-07  0.11102269E-06  0.12580529E-06 
> 0.14255618E-06
>   0.16153745E-06  0.18304606E-06  0.20741853E-06 
> 0.23503618E-06
>   0.26633112E-06  0.30179296E-06  0.34197654E-06 
> 0.38751055E-06
>   0.43910741E-06  0.49757438E-06  0.56382622E-06 
> 0.63889950E-06
>   0.72396880E-06  0.82036511E-06  0.92959661E-06 
> 0.10533724E-05
>   0.11936289E-05  0.13525608E-05  0.15326546E-05 
> 0.17367282E-05
>   0.19679746E-05  0.22300118E-05  0.25269399E-05 
> 0.28634049E-05
>   0.32446712E-05  0.36767046E-05  0.41662652E-05 
> 0.47210133E-05
>   0.53496293E-05  0.60619498E-05  0.68691213E-05 
> 0.77837749E-05
>   0.88202239E-05  0.99946882E-05  0.11325548E-04 
> 0.12833632E-04
>   0.14542543E-04  0.16479030E-04  0.18673403E-04 
> 0.21160012E-04
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> 0.34889427E-04
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> 0.94867930E-04
>   0.10750623E-03  0.12182922E-03  0.13806176E-03 
> 0.15645879E-03
>   0.17730942E-03  0.20094148E-03  0.22772679E-03 
> 0.25808712E-03
>   0.29250090E-03  0.33151098E-03  0.37573338E-03 
> 0.42586727E-03
>   0.48270641E-03  0.54715211E-03  0.62022814E-03 
> 0.70309766E-03
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