[Q-e-developers] Symmetry in phonon and number of k-points
Lorenzo Paulatto
Lorenzo.Paulatto at impmc.upmc.fr
Fri Mar 4 17:43:26 CET 2011
Dear all,
we have a problem here which I cannot solve, it may be bug in the phonon
code or something weird.
Computing the phonon at q-point 2/3 -1/3 1 the number of kpoints used by
ph.x explodes unreasonably. The k-point grid in pw.x was 4x4x4
with/without shift, with the symmetry operatiosn they reduce to 10/8
k-pointys respectively. Hence I would expect that at the very maximum ph.x
would need 64x2=128 kpoints, yet this is not the case! See the following
table with the number of k-points:
pw ph
444 111
sym 10 256 (!!)
nosym 64 128
444 000
sym 8 40
nosym 64 128
The situation is grossly the same for other q-points (part of the 6x6x6
regular grid) and is generally worst for shifted grids. The paradox is
that a phonon calculation in these specific case would be twice as fast
WITHOUT symmetry than with.
Furthermore, tampering a bit with the system it is possible to get even
more point (i.e. if fractional traslations are suppressed due to the FFT
grid you can get 512 of them)
I've had a look at the relative subroutines, but without finding anything
useful. Input/outpus attached.
cheers
--
Lorenzo Paulatto (IdR)
IMPMC - CNRS UMR 7590 & Université P&M Curie
T23-C13/23-5e27 - 4 place Jussieu - 75252 Paris Cedex5
phone: +33 (0)144 27 5211
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