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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Many thanks for your response, whilst I am aware as to the relationship of real-space lattice vectors and how they translate into reciprocal space, I had naively assumed that due to the structure being non-homogeneous
in the y-direction that I would need more k-points there.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Thank you for your thorough explanation, it has been most helpful.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Best wishes,</p>
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From: "Mostofi, Arash" <a.mostofi@imperial.ac.uk><br>
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Dear Alex,<br>
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My general advice would be to use a k-point grid at which the property/properties you are interested in are converged to the tolerance level that you require.<br>
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My comment about your k-point grid was more to do with the ratio between the number of grid points in the out-of-plane direction vs the in-plane direction. Apologies if this is all very obvious:<br>
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Your lattice vectors (let?s call them A1, A2 and A3) are orthogonal, with A2 perpendicular to the slab and being almost 10 times longer than A1 and A3. Your Brillouin zone is defined by a set of reciprocal lattice vectors (let?s call them B1, B2 and B3). In
your case, the reciprocal lattice vectors also form an orthogonal set that are co-aligned with A1, A2 and A3. But B2 is now shorter than B1 and B3 by almost 10 times. This is a simply consequence of the standard definition of a reciprocal lattice. As a zeroth-order
approach, one would want to use a k-point sampling of the Brillouin zone so that the sampling density is roughly the same in all three reciprocal lattice vector directions (unless there are specific reasons related to your system not to). In your case this
means, as a first try, I would expect a k-point sampling of N x M x N, where N and M are integers and N is larger than M by about a factor of 10. In your input file and your post below, you have it the other w<br>
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On 18 Sep 2018, at 10:02, Alex.Durie <alex.durie@open.ac.uk<mailto:alex.durie@open.ac.uk>> wrote:<br>
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Dear Arash,<br>
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Many thanks for your response, despite getting the error Wannier90 seems to terminate successfully, as I have observed in a previous posting (except when use_ws_distance = true).<br>
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Judging from your response, do you believe the issues stem from poor convergence due to lack of out-of-plane k-points, rather than k-points being incorrectly placed within the vacuum?<br>
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I had set this low as I wished for a relatively fast runtime, just during testing.<br>
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When I have access to the University's supercomputer I intend to use a 6x90x6 grid for the scf run and a 3x45x3 grid thereafter.<br>
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Best Wishes<br>
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Dear Arash,<br>
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Many thanks for your response, despite getting the error Wannier90 seems to terminate successfully, as I have observed in a previous posting (except when use_ws_distance = true).<br>
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Judging from your response, do you believe the issues stem from poor convergence due to lack of out-of-plane k-points, rather than k-points being incorrectly placed within the vacuum?<br>
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I had set this low as I wished for a relatively fast runtime, just during testing.<br>
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When I have access to the University's supercomputer I intend to use a 6x90x6 grid for the scf run and a 3x45x3 grid thereafter.<br>
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er basis Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear Alex, Please have a look at this earlier post and see whether it helps.
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http://lists.quantum-espresso.org/pipermail/wannier/2018-February/001484.html</a> Also, it seems that you are using a lower density of k-points (larger number of k-points) along the direction normal to the surface (y-direction in your case) than along the directions
parallel to the surface. I would have expected the opposite. Best wishes, Arash ? Arash Mostofi ?
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www.mostofigroup.org<http://www.mostofigroup.org</a>> Imperial College London On 16 Sep 2018, at 14:55, Alex.Durie > wrote: Dear experts, I am attempting to make a slab of FCC ferromagnetic cobalt enclosed by a vacuum. In order to reduce the number of atoms
in the supercell, it is grown in the 011 direction in-plane so that there is one atom in-plane, and five atoms out-of-plane. I am using a 3x9x3 Monkhorst-Pack mesh as I require an in-plane bandstructure. (Here I have chosen the y-axis<br>
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ut-of-plane, as Quantum ESPRESSO defaults the magnetization to be along the z-axis). Ultimately I wish to model a dielectric and make use of the real space Hamiltonian't that Wannier90 produces, but as a check I wish to make sure I am generating the slab correctly
in the first instance. I have used kmesh.pl to generate the list of k-points. Whilst I know this generates the correct set of k-points to be used for QE's nscf run, as indicated in it's output, I am unsure as to whether this creates the correct set of points
for use with Wannier90. My concerns are; When wannier90 terminates, it outputs 'wrong irdist_ws' in seedname.wout, I get the following output; +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | b_k Vectors (Ang^-1) and Weights
(Ang^2) | | ---------------------------------------- | | No. b_k(x) b_k(y) b_k(z) w_b | | --- -------------------------------- -------- | | 1 0.000000 0.028788 0.000000 603.306159 | | 2 0.000000 -0.028788 0.0<br>
00000 60<br>
3.306159 | | 3 0.000000 0.000000 0.820467 0.742759 | | 4 0.820467 0.000000 0.000000 0.742759 | | 5 0.000000 0.000000 -0.820467 0.742759 | | 6 -0.820467 0.000000 0.000000 0.742759 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Whilst I don't fully understand what this means, the weight of the first two b_k vectors concerns me. Finally, my spread doesn't seem very good. At 8000 iterations, my final spread is 454, with the 20th WF representing a spread of 113. My input files follow;
Many thanks, Alex Durie PhD Student Open University United Kingdom cobalt_up.win ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- num_bands = 45 num_wann = 45 num_iter = 8000 dis_win_max = 30.0 dis_froz_max = 12.5
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