<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Hi Jesse,</span></div><div style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:15 AM, Jesse Vaitkus</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><<a href="mailto:jesse.vaitkus@rmit.edu.au" target="_blank">jesse.vaitkus@rmit.edu.au</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">wrote:</span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello Christopher,</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">a few things. Firstly, did you check that before truncating your interactions whether the band structure was reconstructed? This is a very important first step, if these are not recreated then you have bigger problems.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><i>The band structure before truncating the interactions was very close to the DFT calculation, I'm simply using nearest neighbour interactions right now so I can attempt to reproduce (as a first step) the band structure generated by the wannier90 hamiltonian. I want to be sure I extract the parameters (which judging by your response there seems to be no issue?) right as well as my code works.</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Secondly, you have not reported the average spread of the WFs which is the metric used to work out how localised they are, if it exceeds the nearest neighbour distance then you likely need next nearest neighbour.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><i>Understanding what you are saying: to make my band structure as accurate as possible what you are saying is that I should at least include the spread of the WFs, that makes sense. I'll keep that in mind when reproducing my full result. I would tell you what they are, but my computing cluster is currently undergoing maintenance.</i></div><div><i><br></i></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thirdly, you have not shown us which bands you wish to disentangle, if they're entangled you might need to finesse your frozen window.</div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Fourthly, 2,8 and 3,8 don't necessarily need to be the same; 2,8 and 8,2 and 3,8 and 8,3 need to be hermitian conjugates of each other and no, w90 does not impose symmetry, something that I would so absolutely love.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><i>With regards to the 2,8 and 3,8 , how do I then know if the tight binding factor is negative or positive?</i></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Lastly, unfortunately the way in which w90 orders your wannier functions need not be how you want them ordered so what you call anion and cation might not be so (just check their output positions and then you'll know, assuming that you haven't already done this and I'm out of line).</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><i>I did check this yes, but I will now remember it for sure :)</i></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">An 'easy way' to enforce your own personal ordering is to start a new run using the positions of the converged WFs you should be able to tell which atoms these correspond to and then use a strong guiding centre constraint.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I hope my list has helped you. Best of luck.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Cheers,</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Jesse Vaitkus</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><br></div><i>Thank you for the kind response, and thank you additionally for covering many of these topics for a new user.</i><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><i><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Christopher Pashartis</font></div></i></div></span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 June 2016 at 03:13, Christopher Pashartis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cpashartis@gmail.com" target="_blank">cpashartis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Hello,</span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>I'm new to using wannier90 and I am trying to extract tight binding parameters for use in my code. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to reproduce the correct tight binding result that I get from my DFT code (not QE). If someone can verify, point me to a proper example, or correct me it would be greatly appreciated.</div><div><br></div><div>I've reduced my Hamiltonian to nearest neighbour interactions only, therefore, since I am using a zinc blende structure these are the corresponding matrix elements I am interested in:</div><div><br></div><div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 1 -4.324417 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 1 0.000002 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 1 -0.000000 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 1 -0.000001 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 1 -1.472555 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 1 -1.157538 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 1 1.157536 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 1 1.157537 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 2 0.000002 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 2 2.843276 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 2 0.000000 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 2 0.000000 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 2 1.067338 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 2 0.180666 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 2 -1.181808 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 2 -1.181808 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 3 -0.000000 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 3 0.000000 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 3 2.843276 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 3 0.000000 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 3 -1.067337 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 3 -1.181809 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 3 0.180665 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 3 1.181808 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 4 -0.000001 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 4 0.000000 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 4 0.000000 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 4 2.843276 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 4 -1.067337 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 4 -1.181809 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 4 1.181808 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 4 0.180665 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 5 -1.472555 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 5 1.067338 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 5 -1.067337 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 5 -1.067337 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 5 -8.772213 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 5 -0.000003 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 5 -0.000003 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 5 -0.000003 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 6 -1.157538 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 6 0.180666 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 6 -1.181809 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 6 -1.181809 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 6 -0.000003 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 6 0.872588 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 6 0.000000 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 6 0.000000 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 7 1.157536 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 7 -1.181808 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 7 0.180665 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 7 1.181808 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 7 -0.000003 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 7 0.000000 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 7 0.872588 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 7 -0.000000 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 1 8 1.157537 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 2 8 -1.181808 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 3 8 1.181808 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 4 8 0.180665 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 5 8 -0.000003 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 6 8 0.000000 0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 7 8 -0.000000 -0.000000</font></div><div><font size="1"> 0 0 0 8 8 0.872588 0.000000</font></div></div><div><br></div><div>From my interpretation, the corresponding LCAO parameters would be:</div><div><div>E_sa<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>E_sc<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>E_pa<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>E_pc<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>ssSigma<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>sapcSigma<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>scpaSigma<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>ppSigma<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>ppPi</div><div>-8.77210<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>-4.32453<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>0.87263<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>2.84323<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>-1.47257<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>1.06736<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>1.15752<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>0.18067<span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>1.1818</div></div><div><br></div><div>Where c corresponds to the cation (in this case it should be the 1-4 functions) and a is the anion (5-8 functions). </div><div><br></div><div>With regards to my parameters above, does Wannier90 already build in symmetry operations? For example at (2,8) vs (3,8) these should be the same value (+ or - not both) unless I'm misinterpreting what this file truly presents, so which should it be?</div><div><br></div><div><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><font size="2">Any help would be greatly appreciated!</font></div><span><font color="#888888"><span><font color="#888888"><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><font size="2">Christopher Pashartis<br></font></div></font></span></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"><span><font color="#888888"><div>Masters Candidate</div><div>McMaster University</div><div style="font-size:medium"><br></div></font></span></font></span></div></span><br></span><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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