<div dir="ltr"><div>In my initial calculation, I set 

occupations='fixed', but the ph.x module immediately returned the error: <em>"Electron-phonon only for metals."</em> That's why I attempted to use ocuppations='smearing' with a small degauss value, even though InN is a semiconductor. This raises the question: 

Is it in fact only possible to calculate phonon linewidth just for metalic systems?</div><div><div><br></div> </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 10 jun 2025 a las 2:14, Lorenzo Paulatto (<<a href="mailto:lorenzo.paulatto@cnrs.fr">lorenzo.paulatto@cnrs.fr</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>I notice now that you have a ridiculous E_Fermi shift of 550 Ry,
      is your material by any chance an insulator, but you are using
      occupation='smearing'? If you have a gap, you must use
      occupation='fixed' in phonon. If you want to have magnetization,
      you will have to specify in pw input the total magnetization.<br>
    </p>
    <p>hth<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 09/06/2025 11:05, Ivan Dario
      Arellano Ramirez wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear Lorenzo,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I tried the settings you suggested:</div>
        <div><br>
           <span style="font-family:monospace"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">nmix_ph=10</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><br>
            <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> alpha_mix=.25</span></span></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>and conv_thr =  1.0d-12 for scf calculation</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>however, the phonon calculation using ph.x still fails to
          converge.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I then increased the
           <span style="font-family:monospace"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">nmix_ph</span></span> up to 20
          and decreased the alpha_mix up to .1 but the issue persists.</div>
      </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El sáb, 7 jun 2025 a las 7:14,
          Lorenzo Paulatto (<<a href="mailto:lorenzo.paulatto@cnrs.fr" target="_blank">lorenzo.paulatto@cnrs.fr</a>>)
          escribió:<br>
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            <p>Hhelo,</p>
            <p>increase nmix_ph and reduce alpha_mix, in a difficult
              case recently I have used:</p>
            <p>  <span style="font-family:monospace"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">nmix_ph=10</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> </span><br>
                <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                   alpha_mix=.25</span><br>
                <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> </span><br>
              </span> </p>
            <div>Also, the convergence of the scf process in pw.x should
              be tighter, something like</div>
            <div>    conv_thr =  1.0d-12</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Because the total energy is variational, but the
              phonons are not, they converge much slower with this
              threshold.<br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>hth</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>On 06/06/2025 21:48, Ivan Dario Arellano Ramirez wrote:<br>
            </div>
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                <div>I QE users</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>I want to calculate the phonon linewidth for InN. I
                  am following two tutorials. However, in both cases, I
                  encounter the same issue: no convergence when using
                  the ph.x module.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Pert. #  1: Fermi energy shift (Ry) =  
                   -5.5393E+02     0.0000E+00<br>
                  <br>
                        iter # 150 total cpu time : 13815.8 secs   <a href="http://av.it" target="_blank">av.it</a>.:   5.3<br>
                        thresh= 4.679E-04 alpha_mix =  0.700 |ddv_scf|^2
                  =  4.318E-06<br>
                  <br>
                       End of self-consistent calculation<br>
                  <br>
                       No convergence has been achieved</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>This is an overview of the two approaches I
                  followed:</div>
                <div><br>
                  1) perform very dense scf calculation with la2F=.true.
                  in &systems (Likely, I am exceeding the maximum of
                  40000 k points)</div>
                <div>2) normal scf on coarser k-mesh</div>
                <div>3) phonon calculation using ph.x</div>
                <div>4) Inverse Fourier transform of dynamical matrix
                  and the phonon linewidth using q2r.x</div>
                <div>5) Fourier transform to obtain dynamical matrix and
                  the phonon linewidth using matdyn.x</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>The other tutorial proposed an initial scf
                  calculation followed by an nscf calculation with
                  la2F=.true. the rest of steps are the same.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Here are all the inputs.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Any suggestions or insights would be greatly
                  appreciated.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>1) very dense k-mesh scf</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>&control<br>
                      calculation = 'scf'<br>
                      restart_mode='from_scratch',<br>
                      prefix='inn_ep',<br>
                      tstress = .true.<br>
                      tprnfor = .true.<br>
                      pseudo_dir =
                  '/home/pps/pbe.0.3.1/PSEUDOPOTENTIALS/',<br>
                      outdir='./tmp'<br>
                      verbosity = 'high'<br>
                      etot_conv_thr = 1.d-6<br>
                      forc_conv_thr = 1.d-5<br>
                  /<br>
                  &system<br>
                      ibrav = 0, <br>
                      nat=  4,<br>
                      ntyp= 2,<br>
                      ecutwfc = 90,<br>
                      ecutrho = 900,<br>
                      occupations='smearing',<br>
                      smearing='m-v',<br>
                      degauss=0.02,<br>
                      la2F = .true.<br>
                  /<br>
                  &electrons<br>
                      conv_thr =  1.0d-8<br>
                      electron_maxstep = 200,<br>
                      mixing_mode = 'plain'<br>
                      mixing_beta = 0.3D0<br>
                      diagonalization  = 'david'      <br>
                   /<br>
                  ATOMIC_SPECIES<br>
                  In   114.818    In.pbe-dn-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF<br>
                  N   14.007      N.pbe-n-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF<br>
                  CELL_PARAMETERS angstrom<br>
                     1.793358573  -3.106188164   0.000000000<br>
                     1.793358573   3.106188164   0.000000000<br>
                     0.000000000   0.000000000   5.799337066<br>
                  <br>
                  ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal<br>
                  In            0.3333330000        0.6666670000      
                  -0.0019331848<br>
                  In            0.6666670000        0.3333330000      
                   0.4980668152<br>
                  N             0.3333330000        0.6666670000      
                   0.3767331848<br>
                  N             0.6666670000        0.3333330000      
                   0.8767331848 <br>
                  K_POINTS automatic<br>
                  45 45 36 0 0 0<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div>2) normal scf</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>&control<br>
                      calculation = 'scf'<br>
                      restart_mode='from_scratch',<br>
                      prefix='inn_ep',<br>
                      tstress = .true.<br>
                      tprnfor = .true.<br>
                      pseudo_dir =
                  '/home/pps/pbe.0.3.1/PSEUDOPOTENTIALS/',<br>
                      outdir='./tmp'<br>
                      verbosity = 'high'<br>
                      etot_conv_thr = 1.d-6<br>
                      forc_conv_thr = 1.d-5<br>
                  /<br>
                  &system<br>
                      ibrav = 0, <br>
                      nat=  4,<br>
                      ntyp= 2,<br>
                      ecutwfc = 90,<br>
                      ecutrho = 900,<br>
                      occupations='smearing',<br>
                      smearing='m-v',<br>
                      degauss=0.02,<br>
                  /<br>
                  &electrons<br>
                      conv_thr =  1.0d-8<br>
                      electron_maxstep = 200,<br>
                      mixing_mode = 'plain'<br>
                      mixing_beta = 0.3D0<br>
                      diagonalization  = 'david'      <br>
                   /<br>
                  ATOMIC_SPECIES<br>
                  In   114.818    In.pbe-dn-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF<br>
                  N   14.007      N.pbe-n-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF<br>
                  CELL_PARAMETERS angstrom<br>
                     1.793358573  -3.106188164   0.000000000<br>
                     1.793358573   3.106188164   0.000000000<br>
                     0.000000000   0.000000000   5.799337066<br>
                  <br>
                  ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal<br>
                  In            0.3333330000        0.6666670000      
                  -0.0019331848<br>
                  In            0.6666670000        0.3333330000      
                   0.4980668152<br>
                  N             0.3333330000        0.6666670000      
                   0.3767331848<br>
                  N             0.6666670000        0.3333330000      
                   0.8767331848 <br>
                  K_POINTS automatic<br>
                  15 15 12 0 0 0<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div>3) phonon calculation</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Phonons of InN at G!=0<br>
                  &inputph<br>
                   tr2_ph = 1.0d-14,<br>
                   ldisp = .true.,<br>
                   prefix = 'inn_ep',<br>
                   recover = .true.<br>
                   fildyn = 'inn-ph.dyn',<br>
                   fildvscf = 'inndv'<br>
                   nq1 = 5,<br>
                   nq2 = 5,<br>
                   nq3 = 3,<br>
                   electron_phonon = 'interpolated'<br>
                   el_ph_nsigma = 10<br>
                   el_ph_sigma = 0.02<br>
                   amass(1) = 114.818,<br>
                   amass(2) = 14.007,<br>
                   outdir =  './tmp'<br>
                   /<br>
                  <br>
                   4) Inverse Fourier Transform<br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>&INPUT<br>
                   fildyn = 'inn-ph.dyn',<br>
                   zasr = 'crystal',<br>
                   flfrc =  'inn-ph.fc',<br>
                   la2F = .true.<br>
                   /<br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>5) Fourier Transform</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>&input<br>
                   asr = 'crystal',<br>
                   flfrc = 'inn-ph.fc',<br>
                   flfrq = 'inn.band.freq'<br>
                   flvec = 'inn.band.modes'<br>
                   amass(1) = 114.818,<br>
                   amass(2) = 14.007,<br>
                   q_in_band_form = .true.<br>
                   la2F = .true.<br>
                   /<br>
                  8<br>
                     0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.0000000000  40
                   ! Gamma<br>
                     0.5000000000     0.0000000000     0.0000000000  25
                   ! M<br>
                     0.3333333333     0.3333333333     0.0000000000  40
                   ! K<br>
                     0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.0000000000  25
                   ! Gamma<br>
                     0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.5000000000  40
                   ! A<br>
                     0.5000000000     0.0000000000     0.5000000000  25
                   ! L<br>
                     0.3333333333     0.3333333333     0.5000000000  40
                   ! H<br>
                     0.0000000000     0.0000000000     0.5000000000  1  
                  ! A</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Best regards,</div>
                <div><br>
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        IR IMPMC - CNRS UMR 7590 / Sorbonne Université / MNHN <br>
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