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<div>Dear Paulo and Stefano,</div>
<div><br>Thanks for your quick answers!<br>Paulo, of course, you're absolutely right but I already used this property.<br>The comment of Stefano put me on the right track. Initially, I thought that I should <em>not</em> include time-reversal symmetry (TRS) because I have a magnetic system. However, since I did not include SOC, TRS is there.<br>So I added TRS to the list of valid symmetry operations and voilá, I got the same result as QE. Many thanks! :)<br><br>Best,<br>Lukas</div>
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<div id="GroupWiseSection_1739201058732_922B92C00DB9000097756E6937383562_" class="GroupWiseMessageBody"><span class="GroupwiseReplyHeader"><br>>>> On 02/10/2025 at 03:50 PM, Stefano de Gironcoli <degironc@sissa.it> <degironc@sissa.it> wrote:<br></span>a symmetry that is always present is k->-k due to time reversal which I <br>think should account for the equivalence between [1/3, 0, 0] and [2/3, <br>0, 0], up to a G vector as Paolo is mentioning.<br><br>stefano<br><br>On 10/02/25 15:11, Paolo Giannozzi wrote:<br>> Not sure I understand the problem: if k is a Bloch vector and G a <br>> reciprocal-lattice vector, k+G is equivalent to k. This property can <br>> be used to reduce the number of inequivalent k-points needed for the <br>> sum over the (irreducible) Brillouin Zone<br>><br>> Paolo<br>><br>> On 10/02/2025 14:13, Lukas Cvitkovich wrote:<br>>><br>>> Non ricevi spesso messaggi di posta elettronica da <br>>> lukas.cvitkovich@physik.uni-regensburg.de. Scopri perché è importante <br>>> <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification><br>>><br>>><br>>> Dear QE users and developers,<br>>><br>>> I am currently trying to reproduce the construction of an irreducible <br>>> k- point set as done by QE.<br>>> For this, I set "verbosity = high" to get the symmetry operations <br>>> printed in the output file.<br>>> I start from a uniform k-point mesh. Then, using the same symmetry <br>>> operations as QE, I transform every k-point and fold it back in the <br>>> first Brillouin zone.<br>>> If the resulting k-point falls on another k-point of the uniform <br>>> grid, it is NOT irreducible.<br>>> In this manner, as also described by Blöchl et al (Phys. Rev. B *49*, <br>>> 16223, 1994) I find the set of irreducible kpoints.<br>>><br>>> My code agrees with QE for a simple structure (fcc crystal tested and <br>>> verified) but I have problems with a more complicated case (the 2D <br>>> magnet FGT).<br>>> In this example, 6 symmetry operations are found (see attached <br>>> QE-output file).<br>>> Starting from a 3x3x3 uniform grid, the irreducible set of kpoints - <br>>> according to QE - contains 7 points. However, I find 12 irreducible <br>>> k- points.<br>>><br>>> First, please note, that every point found by QE is also contained in <br>>> my set. But I find additional points which (according to QE) should <br>>> be related by some symmetry operation. By looking at the weights, I <br>>> could figure out which kpoints should belong together.<br>>> For instance: According to QE, the kpoints [1/3, 0, 0] and [2/3, 0, <br>>> 0] are equivalent, as well as [0, 0, 1/3] and [0, 0, 2/3] should be <br>>> equivalent too. I recognized that all the extra points could be <br>>> transformed into each other by translating the lattice. However, <br>>> applying all the symmetry operations from the QE output file (these <br>>> are exclusively rotations and not translations), I cannot transform <br>>> these points into each other. You might try for yourself.<br>>><br>>> So the question that I would like to ask is: Are there any "hidden" <br>>> symmetry operations which are not explicitly printed in the output <br>>> file? Could fractional translations be the reason? Is it maybe <br>>> related to differences between point group and space group? Any other <br>>> hints to what I am missing?<br>>><br>>> Thank you! Your help would be highly appreciated!<br>>><br>>> Best,<br>>> Lukas<br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________________________________________ <br>>><br>>> The Quantum ESPRESSO Foundation stands in solidarity with all <br>>> civilians worldwide who are victims of terrorism, military <br>>> aggression, and indiscriminate warfare.<br>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br>>><br>>> Quantum ESPRESSO is supported by MaX (www.max-centre.eu)<br>>> users mailing list users@lists.quantum-espresso.org<br>>> https://lists.quantum-espresso.org/mailman/listinfo/users<br>><br>_______________________________________________________________________________<br>The Quantum ESPRESSO Foundation stands in solidarity with all civilians worldwide who are victims of terrorism, military aggression, and indiscriminate warfare.<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Quantum ESPRESSO is supported by MaX (www.max-centre.eu)<br>users mailing list users@lists.quantum-espresso.org<br>https://lists.quantum-espresso.org/mailman/listinfo/users</div></body></html>