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Out of curiosity, wouldn’t a low cutoff (not that one should use it) miss a ghost state (that is very localized)?
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<div>In passing, sssp pseudos are tested re not having ghosts, and have default suggested cutoffs. Just make sure you use the latest version 1.3</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 23 Jan 2024, at 09:02, Lorenzo Paulatto <lorenzo.paulatto@cnrs.fr> wrote:<br>
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<p>The calculation is not only not converging, it is actually diverging. Changing alpha_mix and increasing nmix_ph can help, but it may also indicate something wrong with the calculation. I.e. a metal treated as semiconductor, or a ghost in the pseudopotential
(which may be likely if you use norm-conservig cutoff with an ultrasoft dataset)</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/23/24 08:47, Chirantan Pramanik wrote:<br>
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<div class="elementToProof"><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I was running Phonon for a few systems of carbonate minerals for a long time. Recently
I used SSSP pseudopotential for PBE and faced a problem like the one pasted below. Optimization and SCF calculations are properly done. But phonon calculation is not converging. Please help. I think changing
</span><span style="letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-weight: 400;">alpha_mix</span><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> can
be useful, but for my stable and optimized system, it should converge easily. </span></div>
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section from ph.x output:</div>
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# 97 total cpu time : 1799.1 secs av.it.: 84.0</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Aptos, Aptos_EmbeddedFont, Aptos_MSFontService, Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 0);"> thresh= 1.000E-02 alpha_mix = 0.700 |ddv_scf|^2 = 5.897E+09</span></div>
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