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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/05/2023 17:28, Lorenzo Bastonero
      wrote:<br>
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      Dear Rijan,
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      <div class="">To warn you: these steps are involved, and you might
        need to code quite a bit and have to know the theory behind.
        Refer to the before mentioned paper.</div>
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    <p>There is a half-way solution, which consists in doing numerical
      derivatives of the dielectric constants. This works with LDA+U
      with "Atomic" type projections, but not LDA+U+V. <br>
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    <p>I did a tutorial (very simplified) a few years ago, it shoudl be
      here:</p>
    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bzgwv8VZEl9SRDQwckRJVlkyUzA?resourcekey=0-BnSQk84YUeRvCNze9XKCAA&usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bzgwv8VZEl9SRDQwckRJVlkyUzA?resourcekey=0-BnSQk84YUeRvCNze9XKCAA&usp=sharing</a><br>
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    <p>hth<br>
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      <div class="">If you are willing to do so, you can find the first
        steps in example 10 of PW (<a
          href="https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/tree/develop/PW/examples/example10"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/tree/develop/PW/examples/example10</a>).</div>
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      <div class="">Then you might try to have a look in the PHonon/FD
        module (<a
          href="https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/tree/develop/PHonon/FD"
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/tree/develop/PHonon/FD</a>).</div>
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      <div class="">All the best,</div>
      <div class="">Lorenzo</div>
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                      <div class="">********************************</div>
                      <div class="">Lorenzo Bastonero</div>
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                        and MAPEX Center for Materials and Processes</div>
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                      <div class="">University of Bremen</div>
                      <div class="">Faculty of Production Engineering</div>
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            <div class="">Il giorno 11 mag 2023, alle ore 16:13, Karkee,
              Rijan <<a href="mailto:rkarkee@lanl.gov"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">rkarkee@lanl.gov</a>>
              ha scritto:</div>
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                  class="">Hi Lorenzo,</div>
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                  class="">Thanks for the information. May I know, for
                  now, what steps are involved so that I can compute
                  those steps by hand?</div>
                <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
                  class="">I want to know which module to run first and
                  what would be the input file should include and
                  likewise for the next steps. </div>
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                  class="">Thank you so much.</div>
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                <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"
                  class="">Best</div>
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                  class="">Rijan Karkee</div>
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                  face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b class="">From:</b><span
                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Lorenzo
                  Bastonero <<a href="mailto:lbastone@uni-bremen.de"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">lbastone@uni-bremen.de</a>><br
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                  <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, May
                  11, 2023 2:11:28 AM<br class="">
                  <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Karkee,
                  Rijan; Quantum ESPRESSO users Forum<br class="">
                  <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[EXTERNAL] Re:
                  [QE-users] The phonon code with Raman and Hubbard U is
                  not implemented</font>
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                text-decoration: none;" class="">Dear Rijan,
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                <div class="">Indeed the computation of Raman
                  intensities is limited to LDA and Norm-conserving
                  pseudopotentials.</div>
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                <div class="">There is an alternative way to compute
                  both phonons (i.e. peak positions) and intensities (of
                  each mode). </div>
                <div class="">You have to use finite differences for the
                  phonons and finite electric fields for the intensities
                  (if you want to know the theory, look at Umari and
                  Pasquarello, Diamonds and Related Materials, 2005).</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">These routines are in QE, nevertheless you
                  will need to do the steps by hand.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">Currently, we have an automated workflow
                  for doing such calculations in AiiDA, which is a
                  workflow manager that automates complex workflows, for
                  QE and other quantum codes.</div>
                <div class="">The code will be published very soon, and
                  we plan to send an email here once it is published.</div>
                <div class=""><br class="">
                </div>
                <div class="">So, at the moment, if you are interested,
                  you can have a look at the demonstration of AiiDA + QE
                  (<a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://aiida-qe-demo.readthedocs.io/en/latest/__;!!Bt8fGhp8LhKGRg!DbwBeLMmYIrnyC7VLd4-orYpVCYS7spvVhPfEFwHggBVJv_I2o5dKspdMRW5DKNYoiAGAqSmJ1WuS7chcG1yAe8$"
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                  and then get your local implementation and install
                  aiida (<a
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                  aiida-quantum espresso, which is the main block for
                  the future package we will release.</div>
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                <div class="">HTH,</div>
                <div class="">Lorenzo<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <div dir="ltr" class="">Inviato da iPhone</div>
                  <div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">
                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">Il giorno 11 mag
                      2023, alle ore 07:55, Karkee, Rijan via users <<a
                        href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a>>
                      ha scritto:<br class="">
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                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
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                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">I saw some plots of Raman
                          spectra in the tutorial on DFT+U.  I was
                          wondering if Raman spectra with DFT+U and/or
                          DFT+U+V will be implemented anytime soon or if
                          is there any simpler way to add in the code in
                          order for it to have Raman with DFT+U? </div>
                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">As of now, I found that Raman
                          is not implemented with DFT+U.</div>
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                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">Thank you,</div>
                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">Best</div>
                        <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
                          0px;" class="">Rijan Karkee</div>
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