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Maybe one could do something, i.e. Wannier functions are not too dissimilar from force constants. But would the effect of the surface properly taken into account? These are not simple questions, a proper study takes years, and starts with reading the available
literature (which I have not done)<br>
Hth<br>
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<div>Can the finite size as a perturbation with Green function methods be added to pw.x calculations too ? For example can the Self-consistent field energy calculated for unit cell be modified with the Green function methods to that of a finite sized crystal
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</i>><i> Then why would the calculation be considered computationally large if I define 10 nm width ( rather I reduce my system size from infinite to 10 nm)? Can you explain it to me?
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Because “reducing the size” (actually, making it finite) would break translational symmetry and thus prevent us from using the Bloch theorem. In an infinite *and periodic* system, Bloch theorem allows us to break an infinite-dimensional Hamiltonian matrix into an infinite number of finite-dimensional matrices (one for every k vector), which can be easily diagonalized one by one. This is not possible in a finite system (or in an infinite and aperiodic one, for that matter). So, surprisingly (or not so surprisingly once you understand the maths) finite systems may be computationally harder than some infinite ones. Stefano B
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