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<div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: Tahoma; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;">Hi, and nice to hear from you.</div>
<div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: Tahoma; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; background: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;">In fact, my purpose of sharing the inputs and outputs is to help the Developers to make bug-fix on the code AND_NOT other people. Of course, the completed results will be published for use of other members. By the way, what do you mean by "for the sake of transparency"?</div>
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To: Mahmoud Payami Shabestari <mpayami@aeoi.org.ir>, Quantum ESPRESSO users Forum <users@lists.quantum-espresso.org><br />
Cc: Iurii Timrov <iurii.timrov@epfl.ch><br />
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:03:14 +0200<br />
Subject: Re: [QE-users] different eigenvalues results for PW/example08 in QE7.1 and QE6.7<br />
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Dear Mahmoud,
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<div>I thing that for the sake of transparency and in the interest of all the members of this mailing list, it would be better that you post your date to this mailing list.</div>
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<div>On 12 Aug 2022, at 12:34, Mahmoud Payami Shabestari via users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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To: Mahmoud Payami Shabestari <<a href="mailto:mpayami@aeoi.org.ir">mpayami@aeoi.org.ir</a>>, "Quantum ESPRESSO users Forum" <<a href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a>><br />
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:14:04 +0000<br />
Subject: Re: [QE-users] different eigenvalues results for PW/example08 in QE7.1 and QE6.7<br />
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<div>This is strange. I would need to look at two calculations (input and output) that give different results in order to provide some feedback.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="divRplyFwdMsg"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mahmoud Payami Shabestari <<a href="mailto:mpayami@aeoi.org.ir">mpayami@aeoi.org.ir</a>><br />
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, August 11, 2022 5:53:49 PM<br />
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [QE-users] different eigenvalues results for PW/example08 in QE7.1 and QE6.7</font>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; background-image: none; background-attachment: scroll; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat;">Does this imply that the old versions are bug-fixed in QE-7.1?</div>
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To: Mahmoud Payami Shabestari <<a href="mailto:mpayami@aeoi.org.ir">mpayami@aeoi.org.ir</a>>, "Quantum ESPRESSO users Forum" <<a href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a>><br />
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:33:10 +0000<br />
Subject: Re: [QE-users] different eigenvalues results for PW/example08 in QE7.1 and QE6.7<br />
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<div>In example08, after the 1st iteration the eigenvalues are:</div>
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0.987 0.987 0.997 0.997 0.999</div>
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0.200 0.200 0.335 0.335 0.384</div>
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<div>The non-degenerate eigenvalue is the 5th one (spin 2) and not the 3rd one. That's why in QE7.1 it was corrected to the 5th one while in QE6.7 it was not correct. I presume that in the old versions of the code it was the 3rd one, but then since the code evolves a lot, there were some changes and the example was not updated.</div>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[QE-users] different eigenvalues results for PW/example08 in QE7.1 and QE6.7</font>
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<div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; background-image: none; background-attachment: scroll; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat;">Hi.</div>
<div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; background-image: none; background-attachment: scroll; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: repeat repeat;">I noticed that in example08 of PW (DFT+U applied for FeO), the eigenvalues in iteration 1 are different depending on using QE-6.7 or Qe-7.1. For example, in QE-6.7 the non-degenerate eigenvalue is for m=0, (the third one) while it is for m=2 (the fifth one) in QE-7.1.</div>
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<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">The Quantum ESPRESSO community stands by the Ukrainian</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" />
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">people and expresses its concerns about the devastating</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" />
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">effects that the Russian military offensive has on their</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" />
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">country and on the free and peaceful scientific, cultural,</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" />
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