<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
  </head>
  <body>
    <p>Alright, thank you so much for your efforts and your support!<br>
      At least, it's good to know what's the source of the difference,
      and which QE version uses which ELF definition.</p>
    <p>Roman<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15.03.22 17:55, Paolo Giannozzi
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAPMgbCs_Kw4F1xaF9ik_atE9VYd=rSSzF7SCuEGY+JvMPyVBgQ@mail.gmail.com">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div dir="ltr">Now I remember: I left the new version of "fac"
          because it seemed more coherent with the definition of the
          ELF; which means that all ELF calculations before 6.8 might
          have been wrong, although by a relatively small factor<br>
        </div>
        <div dir="ltr"><br>
        </div>
        <div>Paolo<br>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 4:49
            PM Paolo Giannozzi <<a
              href="mailto:p.giannozzi@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext">p.giannozzi@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
            0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>The third and fourth commits of this list:</div>
                 <a
                href="https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/commits/develop/PP/src/elf.f90"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/commits/develop/PP/src/elf.f90</a>
              <div>extended ELF to spin-polarized cases. The factor
                "fac" was changed from<br>
              </div>
              <div>    fac = 5.d0 / (3.d0 * (3.d0 * pi**2) ** (2.d0 /
                3.d0) )<br>
                to<br>
                    fac = 5.d0 / (3.d0 * (6.d0 * pi**2) ** (2.d0 / 3.d0)
                )<br>
                <div>These commits however introduced a bug (an
                  out-of-bound error) in the spin-unpolarized case that
                  I fixed in the latest commit (first of the list). I
                  did not change the factor "fac", though. If you revert
                  to the previous value of "fac", you get the same
                  numbers as before for the spin-unpolarized case, or at
                  least, this is what I observed for a single case.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Having already wasted too much time on something I
                  have no interest in, I am waiting for instructions
                  from ELF-friendly people about the correct value of
                  such a factor.<br>
                </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Paolo<br>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">
              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at
                1:53 PM Roman Lucrezi via users <<a
                  href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a>>
                wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                <div>
                  <p>Hey,</p>
                  <p>has anybody else experienced this behaviour in the
                    ELF calculation with QE v.7.0?</p>
                  <p>Kind regards,<br>
                  </p>
                  <pre style="margin:0em">Roman Lucrezi
Institute of Theoretical and Computational Physics
Graz University of Technology, Austria</pre>
                  <p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                    Roman Lucrezi via users Tue, 08 Mar 2022:<br>
                  </p>
                  <pre style="margin:0em">Hi everybody,

</pre>
                  <tt>recently I used QE v.7.0 to recalculate the 3D
                    electron localization </tt><tt>function (ELF) in a
                    system I had already worked on with QE v.6.5, and </tt><tt>obtained
                    quantitatively quite different results: e.g. for
                    specific 2D </tt><tt>cuts I get differences in the
                    range of 0 to 0.25 (for </tt><tt>ELF(v.7.0)-ELF(v.6.5)),
                    where the v.7.0 results are always higher. </tt><tt>I
                    have rerun everything with the exact same input
                    files, trying v.6.5, </tt><tt>v.6.7MaX and v.7.0:
                    v.6.5 and v.6.7MaX give the same results, v.7.0. is
                  </tt><tt>different as described above. </tt><tt>For
                    each version I ran a non-polarized (nspin = 1) scf
                    calculation with </tt><tt>scalar-relativistic PBE
                    ONCV pseudos, the system is metallic and I used </tt><tt>a
                    mp smearing. After that, I used pp.x for the ELF and
                    an XSF file with </tt><tt>this input (and varying
                    prefixes): </tt>
                  <pre style="margin:0em">&inputPP
   prefix   = 'v6_5',
   outdir   = './tmp'
   plot_num = 8
   filplot  = 'v6_5.elf.dat'
/
&plot
   iflag         = 3,
   output_format = 5
   fileout       = 'v6_5.elf.xsf'
/

</pre>
                  <tt>Do you have any idea on what could cause this
                    discrepancy? I saw in the </tt><tt>release notes
                    that there were some problems with ELFs in the </tt><tt>spin-polarized
                    case, and there is also a line for v.7.0, saying
                    that the </tt><tt>spin-UNpolarized ELFs were
                    grossly wrong in v.6.8. Does this affect only </tt><tt>v.6.8,
                    or each version up to v.6.8, meaning that only v.7.0
                    gives </tt><tt>correct results? </tt>
                  <pre style="margin:0em">Kind regards,

Roman Lucrezi
Institute of Theoretical and Computational Physics
Graz University of Technology, Austria</pre>
                </div>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                The Quantum ESPRESSO community stands by the Ukrainian<br>
                people and expresses its concerns about the devastating<br>
                effects that the Russian military offensive has on their<br>
                country and on the free and peaceful scientific,
                cultural,<br>
                and economic cooperation amongst peoples<br>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                Quantum ESPRESSO is supported by MaX (<a
                  href="http://www.max-centre.eu" rel="noreferrer"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.max-centre.eu</a>)<br>
                users mailing list <a
                  href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a><br>
                <a
                  href="https://lists.quantum-espresso.org/mailman/listinfo/users"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.quantum-espresso.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a></blockquote>
            </div>
            <br clear="all">
            <br>
            -- <br>
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div>
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div>Paolo Giannozzi, Dip. Scienze Matematiche
                      Informatiche e Fisiche,<br>
                      Univ. Udine, via delle Scienze 206, 33100 Udine,
                      Italy<br>
                      Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222<br>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br clear="all">
        <br>
        -- <br>
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">
          <div dir="ltr">
            <div>
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div>Paolo Giannozzi, Dip. Scienze Matematiche
                  Informatiche e Fisiche,<br>
                  Univ. Udine, via delle Scienze 206, 33100 Udine, Italy<br>
                  Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222<br>
                  <br>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
  </body>
</html>