<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Thank you so much Dr. Timrov</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Bhamu</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 8:11 PM Iurii TIMROV via users <<a href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Ok, so you have this:</p>
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<div>atom 1 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2349321 -> Fe1<br>
atom 2 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2349321 -> Fe1<br>
atom 3 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2349321 -> Fe1<br>
atom 4 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2348428 -> Fe1<br>
atom 5 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.1942515 -> Fe2<br>
atom 6 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.1942515 -> Fe2</div>
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<p>Just use find_atpert=1 and <span>docc_thr</span>=1.d-4. This will perturb one Fe1 atom and one Fe2 atom, because they have different occupations. If you want to have the same U for both Fe1 and Fe2 then set
<span>docc_thr</span>=5.d-2: in this case the code will perturb only Fe1 atom.</p>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Thanks Iurii,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I find that <span class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">"</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">find_atpert"
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default">With the setting mention in my previous mail, I got the below error:</span></div>
Error in routine hp_find_inequiv_sites (1):<br>
skip_type must not be setup from the input when find_atpert=1<span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">.</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">For magnetite structure (Fe3O4), Fe has two states: Fe2+ and Fe3+.</span><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span style="font-size:small"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Here is the Tr[ns(na)] and input file</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"></span>atom 1 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2349321</div>
atom 1 Mag[ns(na)]= 3.5251042<br>
atom 2 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2349321<br>
atom 2 Mag[ns(na)]= 3.5251042<br>
atom 3 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2349321<br>
atom 3 Mag[ns(na)]= 3.5251042<br>
atom 4 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.2348428<br>
atom 4 Mag[ns(na)]= 3.5251547<br>
atom 5 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.1942515<br>
atom 5 Mag[ns(na)]= <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"></span>-3.5314272<br>
atom 6 Tr[ns(na)]= 6.1942515<br>
atom 6 Mag[ns(na)]= -3.5314272<br>
atom 7 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802986<br>
atom 7 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754368<br>
atom 8 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802986<br>
atom 8 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754368<br>
atom 9 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802986<br>
atom 9 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754368<br>
atom 10 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802986<br>
atom 10 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754368<br>
atom 11 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802986<br>
atom 11 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754368<br>
atom 12 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802986<br>
atom 12 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754368<br>
atom 13 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802792<br>
atom 13 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754401<br>
atom 14 Tr[ns(na)]= 5.0802792<br>
atom 14 Mag[ns(na)]= 0.0754401<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Input file:</span></div>
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<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">&CONTROL<br>
calculation = 'vc-relax'<br>
restart_mode='from_scratch',<br>
etot_conv_thr = 0.0001<br>
forc_conv_thr = 0.001<br>
outdir = './temp/'<br>
prefix = 'pwscf'<br>
pseudo_dir = '~/PP/'<br>
tprnfor = .true.<br>
tstress = .true.<br>
verbosity = 'high'<br>
/<br>
&SYSTEM<br>
degauss = 0.022<br>
ecutrho = 320<br>
ecutwfc = 40<br>
occupations = 'smearing' , smearing = 'mp'<br>
ibrav = 0<br>
nat = 14<br>
nosym = .false.<br>
ntyp = 3<br>
nspin=2<br>
starting_magnetization(1) = 0.8<br>
starting_magnetization(2) = -0.8<br>
starting_magnetization(3) = 0.0<br>
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lda_plus_u = .true.,<br>
lda_plus_u_kind = 2,<br>
U_projection_type = 'ortho-atomic',<br>
Hubbard_V(1,1,1) = 1.d-8<br>
Hubbard_V(5,5,1) = 1.d-8<br>
Hubbard_V(7,7,1) = 1.d-8<br>
!Hubbard_parameters = 'file'<br>
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/<br>
&ELECTRONS<br>
conv_thr = 1.0000000000d-06<br>
electron_maxstep = 400<br>
mixing_beta = 1.5000000000d-01<br>
/<br>
&IONS<br>
ion_dynamics = 'bfgs'<br>
/<br>
&CELL<br>
/<br>
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ATOMIC_SPECIES<br>
Fe1 55.845 Fe.pbe-nd-rrkjus.UPF<br>
Fe2 55.845 Fe.pbe-nd-rrkjus.UPF<br>
O 15.9994 O.pbe-rrkjus.UPF<br>
ATOMIC_POSITIONS (crystal)<br>
Fe1 0.0000000000 -0.0000000000 -0.0000000000<br>
Fe1 0.5000000000 0.0000000000 0.0000000000<br>
Fe1 0.9999999892 0.5000000216 -0.0000000000<br>
Fe1 0.9999999965 0.9999999956 0.5000000115<br>
Fe2 0.3749993721 0.3749993349 0.3750019210<br>
Fe2 0.6250006225 0.6250006532 0.6249981020<br>
O 0.2454868415 0.2454868399 0.2454949640<br>
O 0.7545131845 0.7545131098 0.7545050345<br>
O 0.7635313546 0.2454868399 0.2454949640<br>
O 0.2364686713 0.7545131098 0.7545050345<br>
O 0.2454868307 0.7635313746 0.2454949640<br>
O 0.7545132523 0.2364686217 0.7545050345<br>
O 0.2454908593 0.2454908222 0.7635274591<br>
O 0.7545090629 0.7545091741 0.2364725394<br>
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CELL_PARAMETERS (angstrom)<br>
5.944682649 0.000000000 0.000000000<br>
2.972341325 5.148246192 0.000000000<br>
2.972341325 1.716082064 4.853885701<br>
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K_POINTS automatic<br>
7 7 7 0 0 0<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Regards</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Bhamu</span></div>
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<span>> As all Fe will have the same Hubbard parameter (as reported in the literature for the same system)...</span></p>
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<span>In the literature people often use empirical U, so that's why they use a single value of U for all Fe atoms. With the HP code you can do things better, i.e. to find out if there are non-equivalent Fe atoms that require their own first-principles U.</span></p>
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<span>HTH</span></p>
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P.S.: "Dr." is used with the last name not with the first name, so in my case this will be "Dear Dr. Timrov". But if you want to address me using my first name then just write "Dear
<span style="font-family:Constantia,"Hoefler Text",serif">I</span>urii". Sorry, I don't want to bother you with this, but just to makes things clear
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<div style="font-size:large">Dear Dr. Iurii (😊),</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">The ATOMIC_POSITIONS cart of my structure (ferrimagnetic system with ntyp = 3 ) is</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">ATOMIC_POSITIONS (crystal)<br>
Fe1 0.0000000000 -0.0000000000 -0.0000000000 (four times)<br>
Fe2 0.3749993721 0.3749993349 0.3750019210 (two times)<br>
O 0.2454868415 0.2454868399 0.2454949640 (eight times)</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">Previously, based on ATOMIC_SPECIES cart, I defined my Hubbard tag as below</div>
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<div style="font-size:large"> Hubbard_V(1,1,1) = 1.d-8<br>
Hubbard_V(2,2,1) = 1.d-8<br>
Hubbard_V(3,3,1) = 1.d-8</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">In the hp output file, I saw that only one Fe1 atom was perturbed.</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">Then I defined below Hubbard tags according to ATOMIC_POSITIONS cart as</div>
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<div style="font-size:large"> Hubbard_V(1,1,1) = 1.d-8<br>
Hubbard_V(5,5,1) = 1.d-8<br>
Hubbard_V(7,7,1) = 1.d-8<br>
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<div style="font-size:large">which perturbed four atoms <br>
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<div style="font-size:large"> 1 Fe1 55.8450 tau( 1) = ( 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 )<br>
4 Fe1 55.8450 tau( 4) = ( 1.75000 1.01036 0.40825 )<br>
5 Fe2 55.8450 tau( 5) = ( 0.75000 0.43301 0.30619 )<br>
7 O 15.9994 tau( 7) = ( 0.49098 0.28347 0.20045 )<br>
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<div style="font-size:large">As all Fe will have the same Hubbard parameter (as reported in the literature for the same system), I would like to skip the perturbation for atom Fe1(4) and Fe2(5).</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">Is it okay if I do so?</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">To skip the perturbation for Fe1(4) and Fe2(5), I have updated below tags in my hp input file:</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">skip_type(1)=.true.<br>
skip_type(2)=.true.<br>
equiv_type(1)=1<br>
equiv_type(2)=1</div>
<div style="font-size:large">disable_type_analysis=.true.,<br>
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<div style="font-size:large">Could you please correct me if this modification is correct or not?</div>
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<div style="font-size:large">Thanks and regards</div>
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