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<p>Dear <span>Yuvam Bhateja</span>,</p>
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<p><span>> I am also simulating the same AFM Mott insulator.</span><br>
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<div>> For structural optimization I usually use occupation="smearing" and smearing="Gaussian".</div>
<div>> Is it the correct way or should I choose different options.</div>
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<p>That is fine. You can use also other smearing options, but in any case since your system has a gap and you use the smearing then your system is considered as a fake metal. So the type of smearing does not really matter for magnetic insulators. For magnetic
insulators, smearing is needed only for technical reasons: in order to use starting_magnetization, the PW code requires smearing. But once the calculation is converged, you can perform a second SCF calculation with fixed occupations and by setting total magnetization
and starting from the previous converged SCF calculation (reading wavefunctions and density/potential). After this second SCF, you will have a magnetic insulator with no smearing. After this you can perform various linear response calculations (PH, HP, etc.).</p>
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<p>But for DOS you do not need to play this trick with two SCF calculations. One SCF (the first one) is already enough. Then you can compute DOS using the tetrahedron method or with the smearing if you want.</p>
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<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>Iurii<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hello,
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<div dir="auto">I had the same question actually.</div>
<div dir="auto">I am also simulating the same AFM Mott insulator.</div>
<div dir="auto">For structural optimization I usually use occupation="smearing" and smearing="Gaussian".</div>
<div dir="auto">Is it the correct way or should I choose different options.</div>
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<div dir="auto">And during DOS I use occupation="tetrahedra" with the relaxed calculation.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Please guide me with this problem.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Yuvam Bhateja</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, 3:49 pm Matteo Cococcioni, <<a href="mailto:matteo.cococcioni@unipv.it">matteo.cococcioni@unipv.it</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>In addition to what Iurii says, if you use occupation="smearing" the phonon code will assume your system is metallic and will never compute the dielectric tensor and Born effective charge which you need, instead to get the LO-TO splittings at Gamma (non
analytic part of the dynamical matrix).</div>
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<div>Greetings,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno gio 13 ago 2020 alle ore 20:11 Timrov Iurii <<a href="mailto:iurii.timrov@epfl.ch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">iurii.timrov@epfl.ch</a>> ha scritto:<br>
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<p>Dear <span>Mohaddeseh</span>,</p>
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<p>To perform linear response calculations (phonons, calculation of Hubbard parameters, etc.) for magnetic insulators, I use the procedure described in
<span>q-e/HP/examples/example02</span>/README.</p>
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<p>If you have a gapped system, you should not use smearing, because there can be numerical issues (due to the division by zero, because the DOS at the Fermi level can be very small using small smearing for insulators, see Eq. (79) in Rev. Mod. Phys. 73, 515
(2001)).</p>
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<p>Greetings,</p>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear QE users,
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<div>Hello <br>
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<div>I have a general question.<br>
My structure is Mott hubbard and has a band gap of about 2 eV. It is also antiferromagnetic in its ground state.<br>
I can obtain antiferromagnetic state and the desired band gap with hubbard parameters by both ways:<br>
occupations: smearing<br>
occupations: fixed<br>
A) I am wondering whether these occupations can have effect on the phonon frequencies?<br>
B) When is it preferable to use occupation fixed in our calculations?</div>
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<div>Any help would be appreciated.</div>
<div>Thanks in advance.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Mohaddeseh</div>
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