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    <p><font size="-1">Hello <br>
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    <p><font size="-1">from the pdos  2 electrons have <i>moved </i>from
        Pb 6p to fill the S 3p band, as expected. <br>
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    <p><font size="-1">The 3p band is hybridized with 6s and 6p orbitals
        of Pb and vice versa. So the S 3p is still made by orbitals
        centered on S ions but is spread to neighboring Pb ions. If a S
        ion is displaced it goes closer to some Pb ion and far from
        others, same thing happens dispacing a Pb.  As Stefano wrote the
        3p orbitals would still be centered close to the S ion, Bader
        charge thus would  not change,  but the orbital will now   lean
        towards the closer Pb and away from those that are now a little
        bit farther,   this enhances the dynamical charge with respect
        to the oxidation number.</font></p>
    <p><font size="-1">Pietro<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/04/20 00:54, Vahid Askarpour
      wrote:<br>
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        line-break:after-white-space">The attached projected DOS for PbS
        suggests that the Pb s- and p- states have significant DOS and
        so perhaps the 4 electrons of Pb have not moved to sulphur
        unless I am reading the DOS incorrectly. The Pb d-states are
        lower in energy and not shown.
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        <div class="">Cheers,</div>
        <div class="">Vahid</div>
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              <div class="">On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Vahid
                Askarpour <<a href="mailto:vh261281@dal.ca" class=""
                  moz-do-not-send="true">vh261281@dal.ca</a>> wrote:</div>
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                <div class="">Dear Stefano,<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Thank you for this quick response. I was following
                  Xavier Gonze’s argument in PRB58, 6224 (1998) Eq. 20
                  where
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                  Z*(u)=dp/du, where p is the dipole moment and u is the
                  displacement. Since p=u.Z(u), we get<br class="">
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                  Z*(u)=Z(u)+udZ(u)/du, where Z(u) is the static charge.<br
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                  So here the Born charge is given in terms of change in
                  charge.<br class="">
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                  I will try the projected DOS to see if the charge
                  transfer is actually that large.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Best,<br class="">
                  Vahid<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 13, 2020, at
                    12:35 PM, Stefano de Gironcoli <<a
                      href="mailto:degironc@sissa.it" class=""
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                    wrote:<br class="">
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                    CAUTION: The Sender of this email is not from within
                    Dalhousie.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    I didnt follow completely your argument about the
                    Bader charge but what<br class="">
                    one should keep in mind is that the effective charge
                    is the change in<br class="">
                    polarization due to displacement not the change in
                    charge...<br class="">
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                    think of a core electron shell (as the d orbitals of
                    Pb can<br class="">
                    approximately be considered) ... as you move the
                    atom they follow<br class="">
                    rigidly (that would make a contribution of 10 not
                    far from your estimate).<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    from the PHONON result it looks like Pb gave away 4
                    all its valence<br class="">
                    electrons to S. or rather they are so weakly bound
                    to Pb that they don't<br class="">
                    follow it, even if they can still belong its Bader
                    volume.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    it looks a bit extreme but this appears to be the
                    result. You could<br class="">
                    compute the atomic projected density of states and
                    see if this seems the<br class="">
                    case.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    stefano<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    On 13/04/20 17:11, Vahid Askarpour wrote:<br
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                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">Dear QE Community,<br
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                      I have calculated the Born charges using the
                      PHONON code for PbS. The only non-zero elements
                      are the diagonal ones and are 4.122 and -4.168,
                      respectively.<br class="">
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                      In the zstar_eu.f90, Born charges consist of two
                      terms as seen below: a part due to polarization
                      calculation (dynamic) and the other is zv (static)
                      which is the z_valence according to
                      read_upf_v2.f90.<br class="">
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                      do ipol = 1, 3<br class="">
                          do na = 1, nat<br class="">
                             zstareu (ipol, ipol, na) = zstareu (ipol,
                      ipol, na) + zv (ityp ( na) )<br class="">
                          enddo<br class="">
                       enddo<br class="">
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                      The zv values for Pb and S are 14 and 6 given in
                      the PSP. If we subtract zv from the Born charges,
                      we get the term due to polarization: -9.878 and
                      -10.168. These values seem too large because of
                      the argument below.<br class="">
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                      To estimate the polarization term, I reduce the
                      alat by 1% and relax the atoms. This shifts the
                      atoms from the unstrained position. I calculate
                      the Bader charges for the unstrained and the
                      strained cases. The change in the Bader charge is
                      related to the atomic displacement. I have also
                      tried keeping alat fixed and moving the atoms by
                      1%.<br class="">
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                      For unstrained PbS, the Bader charges are 12.998
                      and 7.001.<br class="">
                      For the strained PbS, they are 13.004 and 6.995.<br
                        class="">
                      <br class="">
                      So a ~1% change in atomic positions results in a
                      +/-0.006 change in Bader charge. From this
                      calculation, I expect the contribution from
                      polarization to be u(dZ/du), where u is
                      interatomic distance, which amount to +0.6 for Pb
                      and -0.6 for S.<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      The contribution from polarization I get (0.6 and
                      -0.6) are quite different from the those of the
                      PHONON code (-9.878 and -10.168). I am assuming
                      that the code is correct and my logic is flawed. I
                      would appreciate any thoughts you may have on this
                      discrepancy.<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      Thank you,<br class="">
                      Vahid<br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      <br class="">
                      Vahid Askarpour<br class="">
                      Department of physics and atmospheric science<br
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                      Dalhousie University<br class="">
                      Halifax, NS<br class="">
                      Canada<br class="">
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