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    <p>Dear Willem</p>
    <p>It is likely due to the fact that the slab in your supercell is
      not centered, i.e. your atoms coordinate along z axis spans from
      1.14 to 12.54. I believe that if you want the code fo find
      inversion symmetry correctly you need it to be symmetrical with
      respect to z=0, i.e. it should span form h/2 to -h/2. <br>
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    <p>P.S. Also it is better to avoid using ibrav=0 and Cell params and
      use the ibrav value. I would recommend you to try and generate the
      slab using gener_3d_slab.x code of thermo_pw module
      (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://dalcorso.github.io/thermo_pw/">https://dalcorso.github.io/thermo_pw/</a>)</p>
    <p>Best regards,</p>
    <p>Oleksandr<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/06/2019 11:01, Offermans Willem
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      <div class="">Dear QE friends,</div>
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      <div class="">I’m calculating stepped Pd surfaces (Pd533).</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">My palladium slab model has an inversion center. I
        define one half of the atoms and generate the other half by
        using the inversion center.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">The input and only part of the output file is given
        below.</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">pw.x program is not able to detect and to use the
        symmetry (inversion center).</div>
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      </div>
      <div class="">At first, I thought I made a mistake in the
        definition. Running abinit with the same model showed me that
        the symmetry could be detected</div>
      <div class="">and that the definition of the atomic positions is
        fine.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Why can't QE detect and use the symmetry? </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class=""><snip></div>
      <div class="">
        <div class="">&CONTROL</div>
        <div class="">   verbosity        = 'high'</div>
        <div class="">   tprnfor          = .true.</div>
        <div class="">   pseudo_dir       = './'</div>
        <div class="">/</div>
        <div class="">&SYSTEM</div>
        <div class="">   ecutwfc          = 35</div>
        <div class="">   ecutrho          = 140</div>
        <div class="">   occupations      = 'smearing'</div>
        <div class="">   degauss          = 1e-05</div>
        <div class="">   ntyp             = 1</div>
        <div class="">   nat              = 38</div>
        <div class="">   ibrav            = 0</div>
        <div class="">/</div>
        <div class="">&ELECTRONS</div>
        <div class="">   electron_maxstep = 200</div>
        <div class="">   conv_thr         = 0.0001</div>
        <div class="">   mixing_beta      = 0.3</div>
        <div class="">/</div>
        <div class="">&IONS</div>
        <div class="">/</div>
        <div class="">&CELL</div>
        <div class="">/</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">ATOMIC_SPECIES</div>
        <div class="">Pd 106.42 Pd.pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.0.2.2.UPF</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">K_POINTS automatic</div>
        <div class="">2 3 1  0 0 0</div>
        <div class=""><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="">CELL_PARAMETERS angstrom</div>
        <div class="">5.58600000000000 0.00000000000000 0.00000000000000</div>
        <div class="">4.18950000000000 8.86896616015644
          -2.28047495053114</div>
        <div class="">0.00000000000000 0.00000000000000
          18.24379960424911</div>
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        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="">
        <div class="">ATOMIC_POSITIONS angstrom</div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1896396500 8.8680792635 1.1404655228 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 2.7930000000 0.0000000000 3.4207124258 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 1.3965000000 2.4188089528 3.4207124258 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 2.4188089528 3.4207124258 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 2.7930000000 4.8376179055 3.4207124258 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5860000000 4.8376179055 3.4207124258 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 7.2564268583 3.4207124258 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 6.9825000000 7.2564268583 3.4207124258 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 1.3965000000 0.8062696509 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 0.8062696509 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 2.7930000000 3.2250786037 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5860000000 3.2250786037 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 5.6438875565 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 6.9825000000 5.6438875565 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5860000000 8.0626965092 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 8.3790000000 8.0626965092 5.7011873763 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 2.7930000000 1.6125393018 7.9816623269 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5860000000 1.6125393018 7.9816623269 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 4.0313482546 7.9816623269 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 6.9825000000 4.0313482546 7.9816623269 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5860000000 6.4501572074 7.9816623269 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 8.3790000000 6.4501572074 7.9816623269 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 2.7930000000 0.0000000000 10.2621372774 </div>
        <div class="">Pd -0.0000000000 0.0000000000 10.2621372774 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 2.4188089528 10.2621372774 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 1.3965000000 2.4188089528 10.2621372774 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5860000000 4.8376179055 10.2621372774 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 2.7930000000 4.8376179055 10.2621372774 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 6.9825000000 7.2564268583 10.2621372774</div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 7.2564268583 10.2621372774 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 0.8062696509 12.5426122279 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 1.3965000000 0.8062696509 12.5426122279 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5860000000 3.2250786037 12.5426122279 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 2.7930000000 3.2250786037 12.5426122279 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 6.9825000000 5.6438875565 12.5426122279 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 4.1895000000 5.6438875565 12.5426122279 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 8.3790000000 8.0626965092 12.5426122279 </div>
        <div class="">Pd 5.5858603500 8.0635834058 12.5423841804 </div>
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        <div class=""></snip></div>
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      <div class="">Part of the output:</div>
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      <div class="">
        <div class="">     Program PWSCF v.6.2.2 starts on  3Jun2019 at
          10:44:39 </div>
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        </div>
        <div class="">     This program is part of the open-source
          Quantum ESPRESSO suite</div>
        <div class="">     for quantum simulation of materials; please
          cite</div>
        <div class="">         "P. Giannozzi et al., J. Phys.:Condens.
          Matter 21 395502 (2009);</div>
        <div class="">         "P. Giannozzi et al., J. Phys.:Condens.
          Matter 29 465901 (2017);</div>
        <div class="">          URL <a
            href="http://www.quantum-espresso.org" class=""
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.quantum-espresso.org</a>", </div>
        <div class="">     in publications or presentations arising from
          this work. More details at</div>
        <div class="">     <a
            href="http://www.quantum-espresso.org/quote" class=""
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.quantum-espresso.org/quote</a></div>
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        <div class="">     Serial version</div>
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      <div class="">…</div>
      <div class="">...</div>
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        <div class="">     No symmetry found</div>
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        <div class="">                                    s            
                     frac. trans.</div>
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        <div class="">      isym =  1     identity                      
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        </div>
        <div class=""> cryst.   s( 1) = (     1          0          0  
             )</div>
        <div class="">                  (     0          1          0  
             )</div>
        <div class="">                  (     0          0          1  
             )</div>
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        </div>
        <div class=""> cart.    s( 1) = (  1.0000000  0.0000000
           0.0000000 )</div>
        <div class="">                  (  0.0000000  1.0000000
           0.0000000 )</div>
        <div class="">                  (  0.0000000  0.0000000
           1.0000000 )</div>
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      <div class="">…</div>
      <div class="">...</div>
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        color="#999999">Indien u VITO Mol bezoekt, hou aub er dan
        rekening mee dat de hoofdingang voortaan enkel bereikbaar is
        vanuit de richting Dessel-Retie, niet vanuit richting Mol, zie
        <a href="http://www.vito.be/route" moz-do-not-send="true">vito.be/route.</a><br>
        If you plan to visit VITO at Mol, then please note that the main
        entrance can only be reached coming from Dessel-Retie and no
        longer coming from Mol, see
        <a href="http://www.vito.be/en/contact/locations"
          moz-do-not-send="true">vito.be/en/contact/locations.</a><br>
      </font><font size="-2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
        color="#999999">VITO Disclaimer:
        <a href="http://www.vito.be/e-maildisclaimer"
          moz-do-not-send="true"><font color="#999999">http://www.vito.be/e-maildisclaimer</font></a></font>
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Quantum ESPRESSO is supported by MaX (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.max-centre.eu/quantum-espresso">www.max-centre.eu/quantum-espresso</a>)
users mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@lists.quantum-espresso.org">users@lists.quantum-espresso.org</a>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Oleksandr Motornyi
PhD candidate

Laboratoire de Solides Irradies
Ecole Polytechnique (Palaiseau, France)</pre>
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