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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Willem,</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">in case of a screw axis or a glide
      plane you couple a rotation or a mirrow with a fractional
      translation (e.g. 1/2 or 1/3 of a lattice vector).</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best,<br>
      Malte<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.01.2019 um 09:03 schrieb
      Offermans Willem:<br>
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      <div class="">Dear Paolo and Quantum Espresso friends,</div>
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      <div class="">I’m sorry, but your explanation did not enlighten
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      <div class="">Your response: "it means that the symmetry operation
        consists in a rotation (or a rotation + spatial inversion) plus
        a translation (not a lattice one)” don’t ring a bell. </div>
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      <div class="">What kind of translational symmetry are you talking
        about, if not the lattice one?</div>
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      <div class="">My system has S2-Symmetry. This means a rotation
        about 180<span style="caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color:
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          class="">followed by reflection in a plane perpendicular to
          the rotation axis. It can be shortened to an inversion centre.
          Combined with the identity operation, this leads to 2 </span>Sym.Ops,
        which have been detected by the program. This is consistent with
        the message in the output. Since I’m dealing with a slab, the
        system also has translational symmetry. I don’t see why the
        inversion centre should be incommensurate with this
        translational symmetry.</div>
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      <div class="">What is the connection to the FFT grid?</div>
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        <div class="">Met vriendelijke groeten,<br class="">
          Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<br class="">
          With kind regards,<br class="">
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          Willem Offermans<br class="">
          Researcher Electrocatalysis SCT<br class="">
          VITO NV | Boeretang 200 | 2400 Mol<br class="">
          Phone:+32(0)14335263 Mobile:+32(0)492182073 <br class="">
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          <div class="">On 10 Jan 2019, at 22:00, Paolo Giannozzi <<a
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              <div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:30 PM
                Offermans Willem <<a
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                      <div class="">     2 Sym. Ops., with inversion,
                        found ( 1 have fractional translation) </div>
                      [...] What does it mean?</div>
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                <div class="">it means that the symmetry operation
                  consists in a rotation (or a rotation + spatial
                  inversion) plus a translation (not a lattice one)<br
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                      <div class="">At some point in the sequence of
                        calculations, the output contained the following
                        message about symmetry:</div>
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                      <div class="">    No symmetry found</div>
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                      <div class="">I was surprised about the lost of
                        symmetry. Is it related to the fractional
                        translation?</div>
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                <div class="">no, unless this happens in the last scf
                  step, in which the FFT grid may change, in which case
                  this is what may happen:</div>
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                <div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">       
                    (note:  1 additional sym.ops. were found but ignored
                  <div class="">           their fractional translations
                    are incommensurate with FFT grid)</div>
                  <div class="">Paolo<br class="" clear="all">
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                      <div class="">Paolo Giannozzi, Dip. Scienze
                        Matematiche Informatiche e Fisiche,<br class="">
                        Univ. Udine, via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine,
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                        Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222<br
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