<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Eduardo</div><div><br></div><div>default values should be in a reasonable range, but I am not sure that the default for "fnosee" was the subject of much thought: 1 THz seems to me a small value. So don't assume that your estimate is wrong and the default is right. Note also that there is a small section in the user guide (CPV/Doc/user_guide.pdf) about Nosé thermostats for electrons.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have well separated phonon energies, you may need to use several Nosé thermostats for ions as well, I think, but I have no experience about this.</div><div><br></div><div>Paolo<br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 5:01 PM Eduardo Menendez <<a href="mailto:eariel99@gmail.com">eariel99@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi fellows, <br></div><div>I am exploring the Car Parrinello dynamics for a system with hydrogens: CH3NH3PbI3. With N-H vibrations faster than 3000 cm^-1 and a <br></div><div>fluctuating bandgap that may be as small as 1.5 eV , I guess I will need to use a thermostat for the electrons, in order not to use a very small emass and dt.</div><div>Estimating a minimum electronic frequency sqrt(2Eg/emass), using the default emass=400, I get omega_min~0.016 atomic units. For the N-H vibrations, the frequency is 3000 cm^ -1~ 0.014 atomic units . <br></div><div>I read elsewhere than a good frequency for the electron thermostat is 2-3 times the maximum phonon frequency (90THz), this led me to the value</div><div>fnosee=270.0 <br></div><div>My guess is 270 times larger than the default value fnosep=1.D0. Running in a parameter space different to what is tested is generally not a good idea. Am I missing something ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>A related, but independent question is about the ion thermostat. <br></div><div>The vibrational frequencies of this system are very well separated: ~3000 cm^-1 for N-H and C-H,</div><div>900-1200cm^-1 for CH3NH3 molecular vibrations, and <300 cm^-1 for others. <br></div><div>Hence, should I set an intermediate fnosep=30.0 (1000 cm^-1), or should I set a Nose-Hoover chain with frequencies close to every phonon band, e.g., <br></div><div>fnosep=90.0 30.0 10.0 3.0</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot,<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_2358181665428467864gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">
<div>Eduardo Menendez Proupin</div><div>University of Chile</div><div><a href="http://www.gnm.cl/emenendez" target="_blank">www.gnm.cl/emenendez</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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