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thanks for prompt reply. </div>
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So yes I am using NEB to find a barrier between two states.</div>
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Before starting the NEB I have separately relaxed the geometries associated with my two configurations (initial and final). Hence now I have two relaxed geometries.</div>
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I start the NEB using the relaxed geometries for these states as first and last image and I use the option to freeze these configurations. </div>
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When I start my NEB and I check for the absolute energies of these two images (which supposedly are kept frozen so probably they just go through a SCF cycle?), these energies are quite different from the ones I have from my separate relaxations of the aforementioned
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But maybe I am missing something or thinking about it in the wrong way, I will think about what you said. </div>
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Thank again. </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> 24 August 2018 12:24:14<br>
<b>To:</b> Quantum Espresso users Forum<br>
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 space which *connects two minima* (hence the answer to your question, I guess) and whose maximum energy (along the path) is minimum (with respect to other paths). Put in a different way. What are you using the NEB for? Finding an energy barrier, right? Between
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1) How is the energy for the Initial and final structure estimated when I keep the two configurations frozen? </div>
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2)Should it be exactly the same as the final relaxed energies that I would get from completely separate calculations with the same simulation conditions and same geometries? </div>
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3) If they are not expected to be exactly the same which factors does the difference I may see depend on? </div>
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