<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thanks for the fast response.  <b>definitely need 56 atoms</b>. Thats mean that cannot use few atoms for convergence test and optimize the structure.<br><br></div>If you can, can you suggest me some tricks for convergence test with this lot of atoms?<br><br></div>I need run relax calculation before run scf for ecut and alat convergence test?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Giovanni Cantele <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giovanni.cantele@spin.cnr.it" target="_blank">giovanni.cantele@spin.cnr.it</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">As far as I understand, the LiMn2O4 has 8 formula units in one unit cell, so you definitely need 56 atoms in the unit cell.<div><br></div><div>The cif file contains only information on the inequivalent atoms, all others can be obtained from the former by applying the</div><div>coordinate transformation of the space group Fd-3m</div><div><br></div><div>A useful way to do that, as specified here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.quantum-espresso.org/faq/input-data/#3.2" target="_blank">http://www.quantum-espresso.org/faq/input-data/#3.2</a></div><div><br></div><div>is to run the converter from cif files included in the QE distribution.</div><div><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">                    </span>espresso-5.2.0/PW/tools/cif2qe.sh 1513984 > <a href="http://1513984.scf.in" target="_blank">1513984.scf.in</a></div><div><br></div><div>This produces a file (that you might want to check for correctness and to modify according to your needs) that looks like</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>&CONTROL<br>                       title = '1513984'<br>                 calculation = 'relax'<br>                restart_mode = 'from_scratch'<br>                      outdir = './1'<br>                  pseudo_dir = '../PP/atompaw'<br>                      prefix = '1513984'<br>                     disk_io = 'none'<br>                   verbosity = 'default'<br>               etot_conv_thr = 0.0001<br>               forc_conv_thr = 0.001<br>                       nstep = 400<br>                     tstress = .true.<br>                     tprnfor = .true.<br> /<br> &SYSTEM<br>                       ibrav = 0<br>                         nat = 56<br>                        ntyp = 3<br>                     ecutwfc = 60<br>                     ecutrho = 480<br>                    vdw_corr = 'xdm'<br>                      xdm_a1 = 1.2153<br>                      xdm_a2 = 2.3704<br> /<br> &ELECTRONS<br>            electron_maxstep = 200<br>                    conv_thr = 1.0D-7<br>              diago_thr_init = 1e-4<br>                 startingpot = 'atomic'<br>                 startingwfc = 'atomic'<br>                 mixing_mode = 'plain'<br>                 mixing_beta = 0.5<br>                 mixing_ndim = 8<br>             diagonalization = 'david'<br> /<br>&IONS<br>                ion_dynamics = 'bfgs'<br> /<br><br>ATOMIC_SPECIES<br>  Li1+    0.0000000000  Li1+.pw86pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF<br>  Mn3.5+    0.0000000000  Mn3.5+.pw86pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF<br>  O2-    0.0000000000  O2-.pw86pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF<br><br>ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal<br>Li1+      0.87500000000000      0.87500000000000      0.87500000000000<br>Li1+      0.12500000000000      0.12500000000000      0.12500000000000<br>Li1+      0.87500000000000      0.37500000000000      0.37500000000000<br>Li1+      0.37500000000000      0.87500000000000      0.37500000000000<br>Li1+      0.37500000000000      0.37500000000000      0.87500000000000<br>Li1+      0.12500000000000      0.62500000000000      0.62500000000000<br>Li1+      0.62500000000000      0.12500000000000      0.62500000000000<br>Li1+      0.62500000000000      0.62500000000000      0.12500000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.25000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.25000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.50000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.50000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.75000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.75000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.50000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.75000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.25000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.75000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.25000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.25000000000000      0.75000000000000      0.00000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.75000000000000      0.25000000000000      0.00000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.50000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.50000000000000      0.00000000000000<br>Mn3.5+      0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000      0.50000000000000<br>O2-      0.73730000000000      0.01270000000000      0.01270000000000<br>O2-      0.01270000000000      0.73730000000000      0.01270000000000<br>O2-      0.01270000000000      0.01270000000000      0.73730000000000<br>O2-      0.73730000000000      0.73730000000000      0.73730000000000<br>O2-      0.26270000000000      0.98730000000000      0.98730000000000<br>O2-      0.98730000000000      0.26270000000000      0.98730000000000<br>O2-      0.98730000000000      0.98730000000000      0.26270000000000<br>O2-      0.26270000000000      0.26270000000000      0.26270000000000<br>O2-      0.73730000000000      0.51270000000000      0.51270000000000<br>O2-      0.23730000000000      0.01270000000000      0.51270000000000<br>O2-      0.23730000000000      0.51270000000000      0.01270000000000<br>O2-      0.01270000000000      0.23730000000000      0.51270000000000<br>O2-      0.51270000000000      0.73730000000000      0.51270000000000<br>O2-      0.51270000000000      0.23730000000000      0.01270000000000<br>O2-      0.01270000000000      0.51270000000000      0.23730000000000<br>O2-      0.51270000000000      0.01270000000000      0.23730000000000<br>O2-      0.51270000000000      0.51270000000000      0.73730000000000<br>O2-      0.73730000000000      0.23730000000000      0.23730000000000<br>O2-      0.23730000000000      0.73730000000000      0.23730000000000<br>O2-      0.23730000000000      0.23730000000000      0.73730000000000<br>O2-      0.26270000000000      0.48730000000000      0.48730000000000<br>O2-      0.76270000000000      0.98730000000000      0.48730000000000<br>O2-      0.76270000000000      0.48730000000000      0.98730000000000<br>O2-      0.98730000000000      0.76270000000000      0.48730000000000<br>O2-      0.48730000000000      0.26270000000000      0.48730000000000<br>O2-      0.48730000000000      0.76270000000000      0.98730000000000<br>O2-      0.98730000000000      0.48730000000000      0.76270000000000<br>O2-      0.48730000000000      0.98730000000000      0.76270000000000<br>O2-      0.48730000000000      0.48730000000000      0.26270000000000<br>O2-      0.26270000000000      0.76270000000000      0.76270000000000<br>O2-      0.76270000000000      0.26270000000000      0.76270000000000<br>O2-      0.76270000000000      0.76270000000000      0.26270000000000<br><br>K_POINTS automatic<br>2  2  2   0 0 0<br><br>CELL_PARAMETERS<br>    15.57115429380366      0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000<br>     0.00000000000000     15.57115429380366      0.00000000000000<br>     0.00000000000000      0.00000000000000     15.57115429380366<br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Giovanni</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On 06 Jul 2015, at 20:51, max <<a href="mailto:aquiles011@gmail.com" target="_blank">aquiles011@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Hello,<br><br></div>I'm confusing, I need to do some convergence test, but I don't know if I need primitive or one unit cell and how to select it.<br><br></div>I'm using this structure <a href="http://www.crystallography.net/cod/1513984.html" target="_blank">http://www.crystallography.net/cod/1513984.html</a><br><br></div>I extracted the crystallographic translation. The cell formula units are 8, has 56 atoms.  See ATOMIC_POSITIONS bellow.<br><br>One unit cell of LiMn2O4 (spinel) has 7 atoms.<br></div><b><br></b></div>I have the following questions:<b><br></b><div><div><br><b><b>Do I need to put 7 atoms in the primitive cell or how many?<br><br></b>How can I select the atoms position for primitive or one unit cell?</b><br><br>ATOMIC_POSITIONS alat <br>   Li      0.125000000    0.125000000    0.125000000    <br>   Li     -0.125000000    0.875000000    0.875000000    <br>   Li      0.875000000   -0.125000000    0.875000000    <br>   Li      0.875000000    0.875000000   -0.125000000    <br>   Li     -0.125000000   -0.125000000   -0.125000000    <br>   Li     -0.125000000    0.375000000    0.375000000    <br>   Li      0.375000000    0.875000000    0.375000000    <br>   Li      0.875000000    0.375000000    0.375000000    <br>   Mn      0.500000000    0.500000000    0.500000000    <br>   Mn     -0.500000000    1.250000000    1.250000000    <br>   Mn      1.250000000   -0.500000000    1.250000000    <br>   Mn      1.250000000    1.250000000   -0.500000000    <br>   Mn     -0.500000000   -0.500000000   -0.500000000    <br>   Mn      0.500000000   -0.250000000   -0.250000000    <br>   Mn     -0.250000000    0.500000000   -0.250000000    <br>   Mn     -0.250000000   -0.250000000    0.500000000    <br>   Mn     -0.500000000    0.750000000    0.750000000    <br>   Mn      0.000000000    1.250000000    0.750000000    <br>   Mn      0.0000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