<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt">Dear All<br>Can some please help me suggest the range of energy and delta E for extracting band data for graphene in its primitive cell (only two carbon atoms). I have tried several ranges with fermi level set<br>at zero but still the band plotted with QE plotting band option looks very unusual.<br><div><span></span></div><div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Eduardo Ariel Menendez Proupin <eariel99@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> pw_forum@pwscf.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:44 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Pw_forum] ecutwfc convergence<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv249815997">Dear Yusuf <div>The cutoff depends on the pseudopotential that you use, not just on the atom. Different pseudopotentials for the same atoms have different cutoff. Also, some properties requiere higher cutoffs than others. For example, forces and relative energies need lower cutoff than total energy and stress. Using higher values does not harm, just take longer time and more computer resources. Some programs include recommended cutoffs in the pseudopotential, but the user is still responsible of testing it. </div>
<div><br></div><div>If you want a starting parameter for graphene, use </div><div>C.pz-vbc.UPF with ecutwfc = 60.0 , </div><div>or </div><div>C.pbe-rrkjus.UPF with ecutwfc = 30.0 and ecutrho = 180.0</div><div><div><span class="yiv249815997Apple-style-span" style="font-family:Times;font-size:medium;"><pre>the above work reasonably well to relax the structures with fixed cell, and to get the bands and DOS. I fou want to calculate elastic properties or LDA+U or PBE+U, or calculate conductance, etc, etc, these cutoffs may be too low. Yo need to do tests increasing the values until you see no change in the property that you want to calculate. </pre>
<pre>If you plan to adsorb other atoms (e.g. oxygen) on the graphene, then determine cutoffs that are valid for the full system and do all the calculations with the same parameters. </pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Dear Manasaje
The system is graphene with 32 carbon atoms. The cutoff is not specified in the pseudo and I need it before proceeding to other SCF and nscf calculations and believe, cutoff is a property of an atom in question. So can I still go ahead with the atoms in the unit cell. Thank you for your quick response
Yusuf
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Dear Yusufm
ecutwfc and ecutrho depend only on the hardest of the pseudopotentials used for the atoms in the molecule or the crystal. If your molecule is C32 and have no other elements, you can make tests with a C2 (which does not exists, I guess), and the cutoffs for C32.
Anyway, if your are going to calculate something that it is not the total energy or the DOS, let's say, the phonons, or the Raman spectrum, it is reasonable that you test the effect of the cutoff first on C2 and then on C32.
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Pw_forum] ecutwfc convergence
Hi,
I need clarification on kinetic energy cutoff. I have a system comprising 32 carbon atoms. Am I to consider total 32 carbon atoms in convergence w.r.t kinetic energy cutoff scf calculation or the two carbon atoms in the unit cell.
Thank you for anticipated reply.
Yusuf</pre></span></div>-- <br><div><br></div>
<div><br></div>Eduardo Menendez Proupin<div>Departamento de Química Fisica Aplicada<br>Facultad de Ciencias<br>Universidad Autónoma de Madrid<br>28049 Madrid, Spain<br></div><div>Phone: +34 91 497 6706</div><div><br></div>
<div>On leave from: Departamento de Fisica, Facultad de Ciencias, Universidad de Chile URL: http://fisica.ciencias.uchile.cl/%7Eemenendez<div><br></div>
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