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    Laptop?! That's my me the point ...<br>
    Also usually people  use a  supercell to compute phonon.<br>
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    On 10/10/2011 01:47 AM, GAO Zhe wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:4c56c9c3.10ca1.132ec5f562b.Coremail.flux_ray12@163.com"
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        style="line-height:1.7;color:#000000;font-size:14px;font-family:arial">Dear
        Eric,<br>
        Thank you very much for your reply.<br>
        I haven't calculated graphite, and when I tried to calculate it,
        I was in dormitory, at where I cannot download any paper......<br>
        After reading your suggestion, I searched a paper publised at
        Solid State Communications 131, 141-152, it clearly showed that
        the phonon dispersion of graphite is stable.<br>
        I think I may use too small cut-off and k-points due to my poor
        performance of laptop~ I will try it, again, for a better
        relaxation and result.<br>
        <br>
        <div>--<br>
          GAO Zhe<br>
          CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea<br>
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        At 2011-10-11
        01:05:44,"Éric Germaneau" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:germaneau@gucas.ac.cn"><germaneau@gucas.ac.cn></a> wrote:<br>
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          margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
          204, 204);"> Hey Gao,<br>
          <br>
          Well, I have a naive question/reply.<br>
          <br>
          Why do you get imaginary frequencies?<br>
          <br>
          I'd be very surprised of graphite instability at 0K ...<br>
          Is you structure relaxed enough?<br>
          <br>
          This structure has been so much studied, have you ever read
          such graphite properties before?<br>
          <br>
          May experts can tell us more about it.<br>
          <br>
                                                                       
          Éric.<br>
          <br>
          On 10/10/2011 12:37 AM, GAO Zhe wrote:
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            cite="mid:40ba7cab.100b0.132ec1f2d69.Coremail.flux_ray12@163.com"
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            <div style="line-height: 1.7; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
              font-size: 14px; font-family: arial;">Thank you for your
              kindly reply.<br>
              Well, normally, if we found imaginary frequency in phonon
              dispersion, it indicates that this structure is not stable
              or, at least, unstable at 0K. Therefore, the vibrational
              free energy becomes unmeaningful because of the imaginary
              value.<br>
              However, as we know, graphite is stable phase in a wild
              temperature range, including 0K. And when we discuss about
              formation free energy of carbide at specified temperature,
              graphite is used as reference pure material instead of
              diamond. This means that the free energy of graphite
              really exists.<br>
              Therefore, I wondered whether there are some methods, for
              example, improving the graphite model, can deal with this
              problem and calculate vibrational free energy of graphite.
              Or, whether it is possible that we can <span
                class="enfont">neglect the vibration including
                z-direction and only consider vibration in xy-plane.</span><br>
              <br>
              <div>--<br>
                GAO Zhe<br>
                CMC Lab, MSE , SNU, Seoul, S.Korea<br>
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              At 2011-10-09 20:52:02,"bhabya sahoo" <a
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              wrote:<br>
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                margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid
                rgb(204, 204, 204);">no because it is not valid for
                negative frequncy in phonon spectrum
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/9 GAO Zhe <span
                      dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:flux_ray12@163.com">flux_ray12@163.com</a>></span><br>
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                      <div style="line-height: 1.7; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
                        font-size: 14px; font-family: arial;">Dear QE
                        developer and users:<br>
                        I am using QE 4.3.2 to calculate phonon and
                        thermaldynamis properties of materials. These
                        days, I need to find the Gibbs (or Helmholtz)
                        Free energy of carbon. Thus, I compared diamond
                        and graphite phases at 0K. As a result, graphite
                        provides lower energy per carbon atom (about
                        0.3eV/atom lower than of diamond).<br>
                        However, the phonon dispersion result shows that
                        the imaginary frequency occurred at Gamma, H, A
                        and K, so it is impossible by using QHA to find
                        the vibrational free energy at specified
                        temperature.<br>
                        The graphite model I used is:<br>
                        <i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span
                              style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">ibrav = 0 ,</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">celldm(1)
                              = 1.889725989 ,</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">CELL_PARAMETERS</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> 
                              2.130421558318710     
                              -1.229999460182690       0.000000000000000</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> 
                              0.000000000000000      
                              2.459998920365380       0.000000000000000</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> 
                              0.000000000000000      
                              0.000000000000000       6.800000000000000</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">ATOMIC_POSITIONS

                              crystal</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">  C  
                              0.0000000000000000   0.0000000000000000  
                              0.2500000000000000</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">  C  
                              0.0000000000000000   0.0000000000000000  
                              0.7500000000000000</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">  C  
                              0.3333333333333330   0.6666666666666669  
                              0.2500000000000000</span><br>
                            <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">  C 
                              -0.3333333333333330  -0.6666666666666669  
                              0.7500000000000000</span></span></i><br>
                        Is there any other methods or models can
                        calculate the free energy of graphite at
                        specified temperature?<br>
                        Any suggestion will be welcome.<br>
                        Thanks.<br>
                        <font color="#888888"><br>
                          <div>--<br>
                            GAO Zhe<br>
                            CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea<br>
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