<div style="line-height:1.7;color:#000000;font-size:14px;font-family:arial">Dear Eric,<br>Thank you very much for your reply.<br>I haven't calculated graphite, and when I tried to calculate it, I was in dormitory, at where I cannot download any paper......<br>After reading your suggestion, I searched a paper publised at Solid State Communications 131, 141-152, it clearly showed that the phonon dispersion of graphite is stable.<br>I think I may use too small cut-off and k-points due to my poor performance of laptop~ I will try it, again, for a better relaxation and result.<br><br><div>--<br>GAO Zhe<br>CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea<br>
</div><div id="divNeteaseMailCard"></div><br>At 2011-10-11 01:05:44,"Éric Germaneau" <germaneau@gucas.ac.cn> wrote:<br> <blockquote id="isReplyContent" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);">
Hey Gao,<br>
<br>
Well, I have a naive question/reply.<br>
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Why do you get imaginary frequencies?<br>
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I'd be very surprised of graphite instability at 0K ...<br>
Is you structure relaxed enough?<br>
<br>
This structure has been so much studied, have you ever read such
graphite properties before?<br>
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May experts can tell us more about it.<br>
<br>
Éric.<br>
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On 10/10/2011 12:37 AM, GAO Zhe wrote:
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<div style="line-height: 1.7; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: arial;">Thank
you for your kindly reply.<br>
Well, normally, if we found imaginary frequency in phonon
dispersion, it indicates that this structure is not stable or,
at least, unstable at 0K. Therefore, the vibrational free energy
becomes unmeaningful because of the imaginary value.<br>
However, as we know, graphite is stable phase in a wild
temperature range, including 0K. And when we discuss about
formation free energy of carbide at specified temperature,
graphite is used as reference pure material instead of diamond.
This means that the free energy of graphite really exists.<br>
Therefore, I wondered whether there are some methods, for
example, improving the graphite model, can deal with this
problem and calculate vibrational free energy of graphite. Or,
whether it is possible that we can <span class="enfont">neglect
the vibration including z-direction and only consider
vibration in xy-plane.</span><br>
<br>
<div>--<br>
GAO Zhe<br>
CMC Lab, MSE
, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea<br>
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At 2011-10-09 20:52:02,"bhabya sahoo" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bdslipun@gmail.com"><bdslipun@gmail.com></a>
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<blockquote id="isReplyContent" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);">no because it is not valid for negative frequncy
in phonon spectrum
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<div style="line-height: 1.7; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: arial;">Dear QE
developer and users:<br>
I am using QE 4.3.2 to calculate phonon and
thermaldynamis properties of materials. These days, I
need to find the Gibbs (or Helmholtz) Free energy of
carbon. Thus, I compared diamond and graphite phases
at 0K. As a result, graphite provides lower energy per
carbon atom (about 0.3eV/atom lower than of diamond).<br>
However, the phonon dispersion result shows that the
imaginary frequency occurred at Gamma, H, A and K, so
it is impossible by using QHA to find the vibrational
free energy at specified temperature.<br>
The graphite model I used is:<br>
<i><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">ibrav = 0 ,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">celldm(1) =
1.889725989 ,</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">CELL_PARAMETERS</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">
2.130421558318710 -1.229999460182690
0.000000000000000</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">
0.000000000000000 2.459998920365380
0.000000000000000</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">
0.000000000000000 0.000000000000000
6.800000000000000</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">ATOMIC_POSITIONS
crystal</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> C
0.0000000000000000 0.0000000000000000
0.2500000000000000</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> C
0.0000000000000000 0.0000000000000000
0.7500000000000000</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> C
0.3333333333333330 0.6666666666666669
0.2500000000000000</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);"> C
-0.3333333333333330 -0.6666666666666669
0.7500000000000000</span></span></i><br>
Is there any other methods or models can calculate the
free energy of graphite at specified temperature?<br>
Any suggestion will be welcome.<br>
Thanks.<br>
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CMC Lab, MSE, SNU, Seoul, S.Korea<br>
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