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color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">I chose N=5 because the original post referred to 5 supercells. If your system is twice as big it will be 2**3, or 8 times bigger.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">For the second part of your message, I don’t have a good way to know in advance how it’s going to perform. Usually I run some tests and build up experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">If I understand you clearly, I would guess you’re running out of memory when you run on a smaller number of nodes. If you’re using pools for k-point parallelization,
 the memory doesn’t scale. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D">Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:michael@ihpc.a-star.edu.sg">michael@ihpc.a-star.edu.sg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.sullivan.sg/">http://www.sullivan.sg/</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> pw_forum-bounces@pwscf.org [mailto:pw_forum-bounces@pwscf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>psavita@crlindia.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> pw_forum@pwscf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pw_forum] Pw_forum Digest, Vol 37, Issue 46 : Re: Predicting the cpu time usage for bigger system withour doing the simulation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Hello Mike,<br>
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"</span><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">DFT usually scales as N^3 so I'd guess that it will take 5**3=125 times longer than the small system. You would probably gain somewhere due to fewer k-Points, etc. but that's my rough estimate."<br>
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Regarding your above comment, may I know how you choose N=5, is it just an example?<br>
I have similar related question.<br>
Is it possible to know the most appropriate compute resources for running a simulation without actually carrying out the same? My experience on a cluster is that by specifying a smaller number of nodes than the demand often results into node failure. Can this
 be avoided?<br>
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Thanks in advance for any clarification.<br>
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Regards,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue">Savita Pundlik</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Georgia","serif""><br>
Applications Group : Computational Materials Simulations<br>
Computational Research Laboratories Ltd.,<br>
<i>Taco House, Damle Path, Off Law College Road<br>
Pune - 411004, India.</i></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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