:(, i think i have misunderstood the states' identification.<br>I thought we could just figure out states like NFEs from bands structure, and NFEs should have a similar energy dispersion of free electron between different high symmetry points. Of course, we should also take the fold-up into account for different BZs. <br>
After digging out some papers, i find we should judge state not just from bands calculation, but also consider the shape of wavefunction.<br>I am really sorry for my poor expression and some misunderstangding, Thanks for your kindly reply and help.<br>
Best<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Stefano Baroni <<a href="mailto:baroni@sissa.it">baroni@sissa.it</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="">sorry, but this time I do not understand what you mean ...<div>S></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br><div><div>On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:56 AM, lan haiping wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
Thank you ,Stefano!<br>I have misinterpreted the meaning of effective mass.<br>When we talk about NFE states, does it mean that such <br>E-K dispersion should be held between 2 symmetry points, like from X-> Gamma ?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Stefano Baroni <<a href="mailto:baroni@sissa.it" target="_blank">baroni@sissa.it</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>The higher the energy, the lower the effect of the pseudopotential, so high-energy states are expected to be more free-electron like than low-lying ones. I am afraid that the very ocncept of "effective mass" is not very meaningful for these states. However, I would expect (although I have never verified) that for high-lying states the derivative of the band energy with respect to the wavenumber be linear with respect to the wavenumber, with the coefficient given by the inverse of the free-electron mass. SB<div>
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