<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I have an exercise for you. Try to solve yourself your problem by browsing the archive of this mailing list, where this very same question has been asked and answered several times.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Also, I would like to urge everybody here to make a serious effort to browse the archive _before_ posting a request. I think it is sign of respect for people who have already taken the time to help others, and will also help us being helpful to those who have problems not previously met by anybody.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Just as a hint: you problem has to do with non-symmorphic symmetry groups and with the way symmetry operations are found out in the code ...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Hope this helps</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Stefano B.</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Aug 24, 2006, at 2:33 PM, lan haiping wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><BR>Dear Eyvaz :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just relaxed Anatase TiO2 with <STRONG>ibrav= 7 , </STRONG></DIV> <DIV>then output gave that Only 8 symmetry Operations are found. </DIV> <DIV>According to your mail, this structure should have 16 Symmetry Operations, so </DIV> <DIV>how can i obtain correct symmetry operations ? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Input file is below , thank you in advance !</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><P><STRONG>&CONTROL<BR> title = 'TiO2' ,<BR> calculation = 'relax',<BR> verbosity = 'default',<BR> tprnfor = .true.,<BR> outdir = '/home/haiping/tmp/',<BR> prefix = 'tio2-1', <BR> disk_io = 'default',<BR> nstep = 200,<BR> pseudo_dir = '/home/haiping/espresso/pseudo/',<BR>/</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>&SYSTEM<BR> ibrav= 7,<BR> celldm(1)=7.1356,celldm(3)=2.51218,<BR> nat = 6 ,<BR> ntyp = 2 ,<BR> nbnd = 30 ,<BR> ecutwfc = 30.0000000000 ,<BR> occupations = 'fixed' ,<BR></STRONG></P><P><STRONG>&ELECTRONS<BR> electron_maxstep = 100,<BR> conv_thr = 1.0e-09,<BR> mixing_mode = 'plain' ,<BR> startingpot = 'atomic' ,<BR> startingwfc = 'atomic' ,<BR> mixing_beta = 0.300000000 ,<BR> mixing_ndim = 8,<BR> diagonalization = 'david_overlap' ,<BR> diago_david_ndim = 8,<BR>/</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>&IONS<BR> ion_dynamics = 'bfgs',<BR> pot_extrapolation = 'first_order',<BR> wfc_extrapolation = 'first_order',</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>/</STRONG></P><P><STRONG>O 15.999 O.pw91-van_ak.UPF<BR>Ti 47.867 Ti.pw91-nsp-van.UPF<BR>ATOMIC_POSITIONS angstrom<BR>Ti 0.000000000 0.000000000 0.000000000<BR>Ti 0.000000000 1.888000000 2.371500000<BR>O 0.000000000 0.000000000 -1.983097630<BR>O 0.000000000 0.000000000 1.983097630<BR>O 0.000000000 1.888000000 0.387796645<BR>O 0.000000000 1.888000000 4.355203355<BR>K_POINTS automatic<BR>6 6 7 0 0 0 <BR></STRONG></P></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><BR> </STRONG></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 8/20/06, <B class="gmail_sendername">Eyvaz Isaev</B> <<A href="mailto:eyvaz_isaev@yahoo.com">eyvaz_isaev@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">OK, let me hint more.<BR><BR>Anatase has a Pearson symbol tI12 or space group<BR>I4_1/amd. So, ibrav should be 7, but you have chosen a <BR>monoclinic lattice, i.e. ibrav=14. The space group has<BR>16 symmetry elements, but your choice after correcting<BR>ecutrho gives only 4 symmetry elements .<BR><BR>Imagine FCC lattice and its conventional basis<BR>vectors now. According to you now we have to put <BR>ibrav=4 or 5. But ibrav=2 for FCC lattice.<BR><BR>In addition, I also checked your input file via<BR>XCrysDen before I replied previously. Yes, there is no<BR>problem with it, but a figure does not look like<BR>anatase though you used nonzero ibrav. XcrysDen <BR>usually replicates atomic positions if ibrav.neq.0.<BR>For example, if you put ibrav=0 for FCC cell and<BR>specify conventional CELL_PARAMETERS you will find a<BR>rhombohedron, but using ibrav=2 and default basis <BR>vectors you find a cubic cell.<BR><BR>Bests,<BR>Eyvaz.<BR><BR><BR>--- lan haiping <<A href="mailto:lanhaiping@gmail.com">lanhaiping@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> Dear Eyvaz,<BR>> Thank you.<BR>> I checked the strcuture again using XCRYSDEN, <BR>> and found no problems related to the lattices.<BR>><BR>> Regards,<BR>><BR>> Hai-Ping<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 8/20/06, Eyvaz Isaev <<A href="mailto:eyvaz_isaev@yahoo.com">eyvaz_isaev@yahoo.com </A>><BR>> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > Hi,<BR>> ><BR>> > It seems your lattice choice is not correct.<BR>> Please<BR>> > have a look at<BR>> > <A href="http://cst-www.nrl.navy.mil/lattice/struk/c5.html"> http://cst-www.nrl.navy.mil/lattice/struk/c5.html</A><BR>> ><BR>> > Bests,<BR>> > Eyvaz.<BR>> ><BR>> > --- lan haiping <<A href="mailto:lanhaiping@gmail.com">lanhaiping@gmail.com</A>> wrote: <BR>> ><BR>> > > Dear All,<BR>> > > I also have calculated gamma phonon frequencies<BR>> of<BR>> > > anatase TiO2 .<BR>> > > I run ph.x caculation after relaxing the<BR>> structure, <BR>> > > but 9 of 18 frequencies<BR>> > > are minus.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Would you please give me some hints and help?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > input settings are below, thank you in advance ! <BR>> > ><BR>> > > *phonons of TiO2 at Gamma<BR>> > > &inputph<BR>> > > tr2_ph=1.0d-14,<BR>> > > recover=.true.,<BR>> > > epsil=.true.,<BR>> > > prefix='tio2', <BR>> > > fildyn='TiO2-gamma.dyn',<BR>> > > outdir='/home/haiping/tmp/'<BR>> > > /<BR>> > > 0.0 0.0 0.0*<BR>> > > **<BR>> > > *Relaxing calculation input :*<BR>> > > *&CONTROL <BR>> > > title = 'TiO2' ,<BR>> > > calculation = 'relax',<BR>> > > verbosity = 'default',<BR>> > > tprnfor = .true.,<BR>> > > outdir = '/home/haiping/tmp/', <BR>> > > prefix = 'tio2',<BR>> > > disk_io = 'default',<BR>> > > nstep = 200,<BR>> > > pseudo_dir =<BR>> > > '/home/haiping/espresso/pseudo/', <BR>> > > /<BR>> > > &SYSTEM<BR>> > > ibrav= 14,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > celldm(1)=10.2856,celldm(2)=1.0,celldm(3)=1.0,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > celldm(4)=- 0.759357,celldm(5)=-0.759357,<BR>> > > celldm(6)=0.518714<BR>> > > nat = 6 ,<BR>> > > ntyp = 2 ,<BR>> > > nbnd = 30 ,<BR>> > > ecutwfc = 30.0000000000,<BR>> > > ecutrho = 160.000,<BR>> > > occupations = 'fixed' ,<BR>> > > /<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > &ELECTRONS<BR>> > > electron_maxstep = 100, <BR>> > > conv_thr = 1.0e-07,<BR>> > > mixing_mode = 'plain' ,<BR>> > > startingpot = 'atomic' ,<BR>> > > startingwfc = 'atomic' ,<BR>> > > mixing_beta = 0.300000000,<BR>> > > mixing_ndim = 8,<BR>> > > diagonalization = 'david_overlap' ,<BR>> > > diago_david_ndim = 8,<BR>> > > /<BR>> > ><BR>> > > &IONS<BR> > > > ion_dynamics = 'bfgs',<BR>> > > pot_extrapolation = 'first_order',<BR>> > > wfc_extrapolation = 'first_order',<BR>> > ><BR>> > > /<BR> > > ><BR>> > > ATOMIC_SPECIES<BR>> > > O 15.999 O.pw91-van_ak.UPF<BR>> > > Ti 47.867 Ti.pw91-nsp-van.UPF<BR>> > > ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal<BR>> > > Ti 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000<BR>> > > Ti 0.75000 0.25000 0.50000<BR>> > > O 0.20800 0.20800 -0.00000<BR>> > > O 0.95800 0.45800 0.50000<BR>> > > O 0.54200 0.04200 0.50000<BR> > > > O 0.79200 0.79200 -0.00000<BR>> > > K_POINTS automatic<BR>> > > 6 6 7 0 0 0<BR>> > ><BR>> > > *<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > On 8/19/06, Ezad Shojaee <BR>> <<A href="mailto:ezadshojaee@hotmail.com">ezadshojaee@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> > > wrote:<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > hi<BR>> > > > i am trying to calculate phonon frequencies at <BR>> > > gamma point of<BR>> > > > TiO2(anatase)<BR>> > > > and i have relaxed the structure enough (i<BR>> think<BR>> > > )but performing PH.Xafter<BR>> > > > scf, 2of 18 frequencies are minus! <BR>> > > > i want to know that what technical problem do<BR>> i<BR>> > > have? does anyone<BR>> > > > calculate<BR>> > > > these beore?<BR>> > > > any suggestion will be appreciated <BR>> > > ><BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR><BR>--- lan haiping <<A href="mailto:lanhaiping@gmail.com">lanhaiping@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> Dear Eyvaz,<BR>> Thank you. <BR>> I checked the strcuture again using XCRYSDEN,<BR>> and found no problems related to the lattices.<BR>><BR>> Regards,<BR>><BR>> Hai-Ping<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 8/20/06, Eyvaz Isaev < <A href="mailto:eyvaz_isaev@yahoo.com">eyvaz_isaev@yahoo.com</A>><BR>> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > Hi,<BR>> ><BR>> > It seems your lattice choice is not correct.<BR>> Please<BR>> > have a look at <BR>> > <A href="http://cst-www.nrl.navy.mil/lattice/struk/c5.html">http://cst-www.nrl.navy.mil/lattice/struk/c5.html</A><BR>> ><BR>> > Bests,<BR>> > Eyvaz.<BR>> ><BR>> > --- lan haiping < <A href="mailto:lanhaiping@gmail.com">lanhaiping@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> > > Dear All,<BR>> > > I also have calculated gamma phonon frequencies<BR>> of<BR>> > > anatase TiO2 . <BR>> > > I run ph.x caculation after relaxing the<BR>> structure,<BR>> > > but 9 of 18 frequencies<BR>> > > are minus.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Would you please give me some hints and help? <BR>> > ><BR>> > > input settings are below, thank you in advance !<BR>> > ><BR>> > > *phonons of TiO2 at Gamma<BR>> > > &inputph<BR>> > > tr2_ph=1.0d-14,<BR>> > > recover=.true., <BR>> > > epsil=.true.,<BR>> > > prefix='tio2',<BR>> > > fildyn='TiO2-gamma.dyn',<BR>> > > outdir='/home/haiping/tmp/'<BR>> > > /<BR>> > > 0.0 0.0 0.0*<BR>> > > ** <BR>> > > *Relaxing calculation input :*<BR>> > > *&CONTROL<BR>> > > title = 'TiO2' ,<BR>> > > calculation = 'relax',<BR>> > > verbosity = 'default', <BR>> > > tprnfor = .true.,<BR>> > > outdir = '/home/haiping/tmp/',<BR>> > > prefix = 'tio2',<BR>> > > disk_io = 'default',<BR>> > > nstep = 200, <BR>> > > pseudo_dir =<BR>> > > '/home/haiping/espresso/pseudo/',<BR>> > > /<BR>> > > &SYSTEM<BR>> > > ibrav= 14,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > celldm(1)= 10.2856,celldm(2)=1.0,celldm(3)=1.0,<BR>> > ><BR>> > > celldm(4)=-0.759357,celldm(5)=-0.759357,<BR>> > > celldm(6)=0.518714<BR>> > > nat = 6 ,<BR>> > > ntyp = 2 , <BR>> > > nbnd = 30 ,<BR>> > > ecutwfc = 30.0000000000,<BR>> > > ecutrho = 160.000,<BR>> > > occupations = 'fixed' ,<BR>> > > /<BR>> > > <BR>> > ><BR>> > > &ELECTRONS<BR>> > > electron_maxstep = 100,<BR>> > > conv_thr = 1.0e-07,<BR>> > > mixing_mode = 'plain' ,<BR>> > > startingpot = 'atomic' , <BR>> > > startingwfc = 'atomic' ,<BR>> > > mixing_beta = 0.300000000,<BR>> > > mixing_ndim = 8,<BR>> > > diagonalization = 'david_overlap' ,<BR>> > > diago_david_ndim = 8, <BR>> > > /<BR>> > ><BR>> > > &IONS<BR>> > > ion_dynamics = 'bfgs',<BR>> > > pot_extrapolation = 'first_order',<BR>> > > wfc_extrapolation = 'first_order', <BR>> > ><BR>> > > /<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ATOMIC_SPECIES<BR>> > > O 15.999 O.pw91-van_ak.UPF<BR>> > > Ti 47.867 Ti.pw91-nsp-van.UPF<BR>> > > ATOMIC_POSITIONS crystal <BR>> > > Ti 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000<BR>> > > Ti 0.75000 0.25000 0.50000<BR>> > > O 0.20800 0.20800 -0.00000<BR>> > > O 0.95800 0.45800 0.50000<BR>> > > O 0.54200 0.04200 0.50000<BR>> > > O 0.79200 0.79200 -0.00000<BR>> > > K_POINTS automatic<BR>> > > 6 6 7 0 0 0<BR>> > ><BR>> > > *<BR>> > ><BR>> > > <BR>> > > On 8/19/06, Ezad Shojaee<BR>> <<A href="mailto:ezadshojaee@hotmail.com">ezadshojaee@hotmail.com</A>><BR>> > > wrote:<BR>> > > ><BR>> > > > hi<BR>> > > > i am trying to calculate phonon frequencies at <BR>> > > gamma point of<BR>> > > > TiO2(anatase)<BR>> > > > and i have relaxed the structure enough (i<BR>> think<BR>> > > )but performing PH.Xafter<BR>> > > > scf, 2of 18 frequencies are minus! <BR>> > > > i want to know that what technical problem do<BR>> i<BR>> > > have? 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