[Pw_forum] Convergence problem with Pb180Se180 Cluster optimization

Giuseppe Mattioli giuseppe.mattioli at ism.cnr.it
Fri Apr 21 15:45:59 CEST 2017


> Use more intense kpoint mesh.

No, this is useless. 0D systems have molecular-like flat rather than dispersed energy levels in the reciprocal space. There is no reason to sample the 
Brillouin zone with more k-points.

HTH
Giuseppe

On Friday, April 21, 2017 05:06:42 PM ashkan shekaari wrote:
> Dear Naren,
> Increase ecut. Use more intense kpoint mesh.
> 
> On Apr 21, 2017 4:50 PM, "Giuseppe Mattioli" <giuseppe.mattioli at ism.cnr.it>
> 
> wrote:
> > Dear Naren
> > Your calculation is very expensive, and calculations of 0D objects in a
> > plane-wave/PBC framework are often prone to convergence issues. This said,
> > you
> > can try to
> > 
> > 1) perform a simple calculation of the PbSe unit cell with the same
> > pseudopotentials. Are there similar convergence problems? You are using hgh
> > that
> > are norm-conserving pseudopotentials (NCPP) and they could require a
> > richer pw basis set. I would not be surprised if, after proper convergence
> > tests
> > performed on the unit cell, you ended up with ecutwfc=70~80 Ry. There is
> > no need to specify ecutrho, anyway. It is fixed to a default ecutwfc*4 value
> > in the case of NCPP.
> > 
> > 2) lower mixing_beta, even down to very small values such as 0.05~0.01.
> > Sometimes it helps to reach convergence (slowly but steady).
> > 
> > It is impossible to say more without looking at you cluster, but if it is
> > simply cut out from the bulk along low-index directions (e.g., a cube) you
> > have to deal with a mess of surface dangling bonds that want to play nasty
> > charge displacements between occupied and unoccupied electronic levels,
> > even inducing a metallic character in your cluster. People used to
> > saturate such dangling bonds with pseudo-H atoms (H atoms having formal
> > charge
> > lower or higher than 1.0, depending on the formal valence of the saturated
> > atom). If you don't want to saturate the surface you must keep into account
> > the possibility that the cluster surface reconstruct, and you should
> > anticipate reconstruction trends by lplacing the atoms nearer to the
> > expected
> > final positions. It could be a very difficult task, look at the
> > instructive story of the Si 7x7 reconstruction in this movie!
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdC0NhAMBY
> > 
> > HTH
> > Giuseppe
> > 
> > On Friday, April 21, 2017 04:06:06 AM Narendranath Ghosh wrote:
> > > Dear all!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am currently trying to optimizing a Pb180Se180 cluster using  QE.
> > > 
> > > But after 83 iterations it didn’t get converged.
> > > 
> > > *Input  *
> > > 
> > > calculation='relax',
> > > 
> > >   outdir='/staging/op/NAREN_USC/PbSe_360_FINAL_based_Pb68Se68/OUTPUT',
> > >   
> > >   prefix='PbSe-360',
> > >   
> > >   pseudo_dir='/staging/op/NAREN_USC/PbSe_360_FINAL_based_
> > 
> > Pb68Se68/pseudo',
> > 
> > >   verbosity='low',
> > > 
> > > /
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > &SYSTEM
> > > 
> > >   ibrav=0,
> > >   
> > >   celldm(1)=90.7068539791d0,
> > >   
> > >   nat=360,
> > >   
> > >   ntyp=2,
> > >   
> > >   ecutwfc=30.0d0,
> > >   
> > >   ecutrho=120.0d0,
> > >   
> > >   input_dft='PBE',
> > >   
> > >   occupations='smearing',
> > >   
> > >   smearing='gaussian',
> > >   
> > >   degauss=0.002000d0,
> > > 
> > > /
> > > 
> > > &ELECTRONS
> > > 
> > >   diagonalization='david',
> > >   
> > >   mixing_mode='plain',
> > >   
> > >   mixing_beta=0.700d0,
> > > 
> > > /
> > > 
> > > &IONS
> > > 
> > > /
> > > 
> > > ATOMIC_SPECIES
> > > 
> > >  Pb 207.200000d0 Pb.pbe-hgh.UPF
> > >  
> > >  Se 78.960000d0  Se.pbe-hgh.UPF
> > > 
> > > ATOMIC_POSITIONS {alat}
> > > 
> > >   Pb   0.4831100000d0   0.4740500000d0   0.4999300000d0
> > >   
> > >   Se   0.5190800000d0   0.5278700000d0   0.5981100000d0
> > >   
> > >   Se   0.5901900000d0   0.4712600000d0   0.2154800000d0
> > > 
> > > ……………………………………………………
> > 
> > ………….
> > 
> > > K_POINTS {gamma}
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > CELL_PARAMETERS {alat}
> > > 
> > >   1.000000000000d0  0.000000000000d0  0.000000000000d0
> > >   
> > >   0.000000000000d0  1.000000000000d0  0.000000000000d0
> > >   
> > >   0.000000000000d0  0.000000000000d0  1.000000000000d0
> > > 
> > > *Output*
> > > 
> > >     iteration # 81     ecut=    30.00 Ry     beta=0.70
> > >     
> > >      Davidson diagonalization with overlap
> > >      
> > >      WARNING:     9 eigenvalues not converged in regterg
> > >      
> > >      ethr =  4.62E-04,  avg # of iterations = 21.0
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      total cpu time spent up to now is    92680.3 secs
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      total energy              =    2098.58547221 Ry
> > >      
> > >      Harris-Foulkes estimate   =  -16225.87153481 Ry
> > >      
> > >      estimated scf accuracy    <  209398.02191142 Ry
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      iteration # 82     ecut=    30.00 Ry     beta=0.70
> > >      
> > >      Davidson diagonalization with overlap
> > >      
> > >      WARNING:     5 eigenvalues not converged in regterg
> > >      
> > >      c_bands:  5 eigenvalues not converged
> > >      
> > >      ethr =  4.62E-04,  avg # of iterations = 20.0
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      total cpu time spent up to now is    95793.4 secs
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      total energy              =    1914.32044477 Ry
> > >      
> > >      Harris-Foulkes estimate   =  -18801.41916562 Ry
> > >      
> > >      estimated scf accuracy    <  243341.55571758 Ry
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      iteration # 83     ecut=    30.00 Ry     beta=0.70
> > >      
> > >      Davidson diagonalization with overlap
> > >      
> > >      WARNING:   138 eigenvalues not converged in regterg
> > >      
> > >      ethr =  4.62E-04,  avg # of iterations = 27.0
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      total cpu time spent up to now is    99442.6 secs
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      
> > >      total energy              =    1659.36438352 Ry
> > >      
> > >      Harris-Foulkes estimate   =  -15989.48139862 Ry
> > >      
> > >      estimated scf accuracy    <  138246.99363207 Ry
> > > 
> > > Any comment to help me getting started is very much appreciated!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > Naren
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > *Dr. Narendra Nath Ghosh*
> > > 
> > > *Research Associate*
> > > 
> > > *University of Gour Banga*
> > > 
> > > *Department of Chemistry*
> > > 
> > > *Malda-732102*
> > > 
> > > *India*
> > > 
> > > *Phone: +919126667601*
> > 
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