[Pw_forum] kohn -sham orbitals ortogonality and ortonormality

nazari at iasbs.ac.ir nazari at iasbs.ac.ir
Thu Aug 30 16:10:00 CEST 2012



Dear Alexey,

 I understand that the input is for
pw_export.x and run with it.
I also need the  kohn-Sham orbitals
whichare produced by pp.x.  but in ortogonalized form.  is it
possible?
Regards
Fariba Nazari
IASBS


>
Dear Fariba, 
> 
> That is nice to know. Also i just
found, that the example of the input i 
> sent in the previous
letter is not for pp.x, but rather for 
> pw_export.x - that is
for producing |psi> and S|psi>. For printing 
> orbitals you
of course need pp.x. 
> Also i'm not sure what output files you
mean - those with psi and Spsi 
> (pw_export.x) can be produced in
either binary or text format - that is 
> it. If you imply
orbitals (the charge density for given band) - i think 
> they may
be written in cube format (output_format = 6, just look in 
>
Doc/INPUT_PP.txt in you QE distribution for more details) 
> 
> Best regards, 
> Alexey 
> 
> 
>
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From: nazari at iasbs.ac.ir 
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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:09:20 AM 
> Subject: Re:
[Pw_forum] kohn -sham orbitals ortogonality and ortonormality 
>

> 
> Dear Alexey 
> 
> Thank you . I have
cheked your suggestion and it works. 
> One more question : IS it
possible that the obtanied files have cube 
> format.? 
>

> Best Regards 
> Fariba Nazari 
> IASBS 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Dear Fariba, 
>> 
>> I think you can get S|psi> without modifying
the code. Here is an input 
>> for pp.x: 
>> 
>> &inputpp 
>> prefix = 'x', 
>> outdir
= './', 
>> pseudo_dir = 'path-to-your-PP-directory', 
>> psfile(1) = 'C.pbe-van_bm.UPF', 
>> psfile(2) =
'H.pbe-van_bm.UPF', 
>> single_file = .FALSE., 
>>
ascii = .TRUE., 
>> uspp_spsi = .TRUE., <--- this produces
S|psi> along with the |psi>, as 
>> long as i understand
this should work at least for US-PPs 
>> / 
>> 
>> In addition, if you need localized orbitals, you might look in
the 
>> direction of maximally localized wannier functions,
ELF, or, if you want 
>> to plot MOs, you can use the pp.x to
make .xsf files with the charge 
>> density corresponding to
necessary KS orbitals. 
>> 
>> 
>> Best
regards, 
>> Alexey 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> 
> 
From: nazari at iasbs.ac.ir 
>> To: "PWSCF Forum"
<pw_forum at pwscf.org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012
10:43:52 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] kohn -sham orbitals
ortogonality and 
>> ortonormality 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Alexey 
>> 
>> Would you please let me know how the S|psi> is obtained with
pp.x . I 
>> need 
>> orthonormal kohn-sham
orbitals. 
>> Regards 
>> Fariba Nazari 
>> IASBS 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Dear Fariba, 
>>> 
>>> The Kohn-Sham (please, not kohen) orbitals produced by pp.x
are not 
>>> orthonormalized in general, because of the
pseudo-potentials and 
>>> projection techniques (PAW).
However, practically, you may safely 
>>> assume 
>>> they are orthogonal and almost normalized (self-overlaps
are not far 
>>> from 
>>> 1.0). This is
especially true for norm-conserving PP (by construction, 
>>> the 
>>> wavefunctions supposed to preserve
norm), and, in slightly smaller 
>>> extent, 
>>> for ultra-soft pseudopotentials. For PAW wavefunctions the
trick is to 
>>> reconstruct full wavefunction from the
projection, so it is S|psi>. If 
>>> i 
>>>
remember it correctly, the ortogonality will then be for 
>>> <psi_i|S|psi_j> 
>>> = 
>>> delta_ij. However you can obtain S|psi> with pp.x as
well as |psi>. 
>>> Please anyone correct me if i'm wrong
at some point. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you, 
>>> Alexey 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original
Message ----- 
>>> 
>> 
> 
From:
nazari at iasbs.ac.ir 
>>> To: "PWSCF Forum"
<pw_forum at pwscf.org> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28,
2012 6:23:31 AM 
>>> Subject: [Pw_forum] kohen -sham
orbitals ortogonality and ortonormality 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
Dear All, 
>>> 
>>> Would you please let me
know if the kohen -sham orbitals ,which are 
>>> obtained by
pp.x, are normalized, orthogonalized or orthonormalized? 
>>> 
>>> Regards 
>>> Fariba Nazari

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