[Pw_forum] RE: Pw_forum digest, Vol 1 #668 - 2 msgs

sun jason jasonsun98 at hotmail.com
Sun Jun 26 10:27:47 CEST 2005


Thank you very much! I've solve the problems of display.

now I got another question, when I want to run a test of phonon calculation 
of cubic BN, and I follow the input file and the procedure of example02. I 
got a result. but not very accuate. the result I got for the phonon 
frequency at gamma point of BN is like follow:

...
Convergence has been achieved 
 
     Number of q in the star =    1
     List of q in the star:
          1   0.000000000   0.000000000   0.000000000

          Dielectric constant in cartesian axis 

          (        4.80316        0.00000        0.00000 )
          (        0.00000        4.80316        0.00000 )
          (        0.00000        0.00000        4.80316 )

          Effective charges E-U in cartesian axis 

           atom     1
          (        1.81369        0.00000        0.00000 )
          (        0.00000        1.81369        0.00000 )
          (        0.00000        0.00000        1.81369 )
           atom     2
          (       -1.78077        0.00000        0.00000 )
          (        0.00000       -1.78077        0.00000 )
          (        0.00000        0.00000       -1.78077 )

     Diagonalizing the dynamical matrix

     q = (    0.000000000   0.000000000   0.000000000 ) 

 **************************************************************************
     omega( 1) =       1.154106 [THz] =      38.497100 [cm-1]
     omega( 2) =       1.154106 [THz] =      38.497100 [cm-1]
     omega( 3) =       1.154106 [THz] =      38.497100 [cm-1]
     omega( 4) =      33.423461 [THz] =    1114.894068 [cm-1]
     omega( 5) =      33.423461 [THz] =    1114.894068 [cm-1]
     omega( 6) =      33.423461 [THz] =    1114.894068 [cm-1]
 ************************************************************************** 


but as we know, the exact frequencies should at about 1055 and 1305 cm-1

I'm not sure whether pw.x+ph.x can get the LO/TO splitting, and the whether 
this 38.497 cm-1 is TO mode?

I have change the cut of energy and the k-point sampling to 5*5*5, but the 
result is not change much!

any help would be appreciate


==============================================
Jian Sun 
Physics Dept. of Nanjing University 
National Lab. of Solid State Microstructures 
22 Hankou Road, Gulou District 
Nanjing, Jiangsu Province 
210093 
China
==============================================




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> >    2. Re: temperature oscillations with nose' thermostat (Konstantin
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> >    3. Re: temperature oscillations with nose' thermostat (Axel 
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> >    4. Question on how to trace a specific band on nonspecail k-points.
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> >From: Gerardo Ballabio <g.ballabio at cineca.it>
> >Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] need help about PWgui
> >To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
> >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:26:05 +0200 (MEST)
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> >On 06/18/05 09:24:54, sun jason wrote:
> > > hi,everyone,
> > >
> > > I installed pwgui on another old computer(redhat 9.0) a few monthes
> > > ago, and it launched fast.
> > >
> > > And now, I installed pwgui-2.1.3 on my new computer, it can be
> > > launched, but it is really very very slow, what happened to me? my
> > > system is RedHat enterprise linux advance server 4.0, (CPU:
> > > pentium4 3.0GHz, mem 1G , display card ATI9550).
> >
> >Is your problem specific to PWgui, or do you experience slowness also
> >on other programs? If the latter, graphical acceleration may not have
> >been set up correctly. I've had similar experience with ATI cards.
> >Try running "glxinfo" and look if it says "direct rendering: yes" or
> >"no".
> >
> >Gerardo
>
>=============================================================
>=============================================================
>Yes,you are right, it says "direct redering : no"
>Is it the problem?
>how can I change the value?
>
>
>Thank you very much!
>==============================================
>Jian Sun
>Physics Dept. of Nanjing University
>National Lab. of Solid State Microstructures
>22 Hankou Road, Gulou District
>Nanjing, Jiangsu Province
>210093
>China
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> >Message: 2
> >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:14:54 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Konstantin Kudin <konstantin_kudin at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] temperature oscillations with nose' thermostat
> >To: pw_forum at pwscf.org,
> >	Massimiliano Bonomi <massimiliano.bonomi at mi.infn.it>
> >Reply-To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
> >
> >  If these oscillations concern you, you could run with the Nose-Hoover
> >chains in CPV from the current CVS. With the chains the oscillations
> >are still present, however, the highs are lower and the lows are
> >higher. Thus the plot of temperature vs. time step looks way nicer!
> >
> >  Kostya
> >
> >
> >--- Massimiliano Bonomi <massimiliano.bonomi at mi.infn.it> wrote:
> >
> > >   Dear users,
> > > I'm running molecular dynamics with fpmd (in espresso v. 2.1.3
> > > package)
> > > of a solid assembled with cluster of gold.
> > > After reaching the electronic ground state i've started the dynamics
> > > using nose' thermostat
> > > both on ions and electron, choosing the right thermostat frequencies
> > > (for ions half the higher phonon frequency, for electrons 2/3 times
> > > the
> > > higher phonon frequency).
> > >
> > > During a simulation of 10000 time step (~ 1.0 picoseconds) at T=300K
> > >
> > > the temperature of the system  made big oscillations around 300K
> > > (even
> > > of 200K!!).
> > >
> > > Is it normal?? How can i reduce the width of these oscillations?
> > >
> > > Best regards and thanks in advance.
> > > Massimiliano Bonomi.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Massimiliano Bonomi
> > > Dipartimento di Fisica, Universit?degli Studi di Milano
> > > via Celoria, 16 - 20133 Milano, Italy
> > > ph. +39 02 50317 717
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> >Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:51:25 +0200 (CEST)
> >From: Axel Kohlmeyer <axel.kohlmeyer at theochem.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
> >To: Konstantin Kudin <konstantin_kudin at yahoo.com>
> >Cc: pw_forum at pwscf.org,
> >	Massimiliano Bonomi <massimiliano.bonomi at mi.infn.it>
> >Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] temperature oscillations with nose' thermostat
> >Reply-To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
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> >On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Konstantin Kudin wrote:
> >
> >dear kostya,
> >
> >KK>  If these oscillations concern you, you could run with the 
Nose-Hoover
> >KK> chains in CPV from the current CVS. With the chains the oscillations
> >KK> are still present, however, the highs are lower and the lows are
> >KK> higher. Thus the plot of temperature vs. time step looks way nicer!
> >
> >two more remarks about this. having low temperature fluctuations is
> >not really an important point here. with few atoms (and for AIMD runs
> >you basically always have few atoms) the fluctuations _have_ to be
> >large. with larger systems they average out more and more, but they
> >are still present if you plot the instantaneous temperature/kinetic
> >energy of a small subsystem. in fact, you _need_ those fluctuations,
> >so that your system can overcome energy barriers. so the fluctuations
> >per se are not a bad thing. you should watch out, however, for a
> >temperature _drift_. for an MD simulation of 'only' one picosecond,
> >there should be (almost) none (provided you are starting in 
equilibrium).
> >
> >using nose-hoover thermostat chains is a Good Thing(TM) nevertheless,
> >but for a different reason: the nose-hoover chains are a very important
> >means to ensure ergodicity, i.e. the fact that that you sufficiently
> >explore phase space. the 'normal' nose-hoover does not do that.
> >the smaller fuctuations in the total instantaneous temperature
> >are just a side effect of that.
> >for a system with a small number of atoms (say, less then two hundred),
> >you should even have one nose-hoover chain for each degree of freedom.
> >a simple example to illustrate that: consider an MD of a single
> >water molecule in gas phase. if the starting conditions are selected
> >in such a way, that only the bending mode is sufficiently populated,
> >it will take a very long time, until the stretch modes are populated,
> >since those modes (almost) don't couple to the bending mode.
> >
> >
> >best regards,
> >	axel.
> >
> >KK>  Kostya
> >KK>
> >KK>
> >KK> --- Massimiliano Bonomi <massimiliano.bonomi at mi.infn.it> wrote:
> >KK>
> >KK> >   Dear users,
> >KK> > I'm running molecular dynamics with fpmd (in espresso v. 2.1.3
> >KK> > package)
> >KK> > of a solid assembled with cluster of gold.
> >KK> > After reaching the electronic ground state i've started the 
dynamics
> >KK> > using nose' thermostat
> >KK> > both on ions and electron, choosing the right thermostat 
frequencies
> >KK> > (for ions half the higher phonon frequency, for electrons 2/3 
times
> >KK> > the
> >KK> > higher phonon frequency).
> >KK> >
> >KK> > During a simulation of 10000 time step (~ 1.0 picoseconds) at 
T=300K
> >KK> >
> >KK> > the temperature of the system  made big oscillations around 300K
> >KK> > (even
> >KK> > of 200K!!).
> >KK> >
> >KK> > Is it normal?? How can i reduce the width of these oscillations?
> >KK> >
> >KK> > Best regards and thanks in advance.
> >KK> > Massimiliano Bonomi.
> >KK> >
> >KK> > --
> >KK> >
> >KK> > Massimiliano Bonomi
> >KK> > Dipartimento di Fisica, Universit?degli Studi di Milano
> >KK> > via Celoria, 16 - 20133 Milano, Italy
> >KK> > ph. +39 02 50317 717
> >KK> > e-mail: massimiliano.bonomi at mi.infn.it, 
massimiliano.bonomi at unimi.it
> >KK> >
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> >Message: 4
> >From: =?gb2312?B?1cUguumx8g==?= <leoant21 at hotmail.com>
> >To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
> >Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:42:00 +0000
> >Subject: [Pw_forum] Question on how to trace a specific band on 
nonspecail
>k-points.
> >Reply-To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
> >
> >Dear all:
> >   I am trying to plot FermiSurface using .XSF format file, however, I
>find
> >it difficult to get the energy value for k-points defined in the .XSF as
> >general grid: you see, when one plot band structure, one get the energy
> >values for serial special k-points, and get them proceeded by bands.x 
and
> >plot the band structure through plotband.x; however, as to "general 
grid"
> >defined in reciprocal space in .XSF file, though I can calculate a lot 
of
> >energy values, how can I trace the energy values belong to specific band
>on
> >the non special k-points, since energy may vary greatly?
> >   Or is there any good way to plot the Fermi Surface of realistic
> >materials?
> >Thanks in advance.
> >Regards.
> >
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>Message: 2
>From: Gerardo Ballabio <g.ballabio at cineca.it>
>Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] RE: Pw_forum digest, Vol 1 #667 - 4 msgs
>To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
>Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:12:55 +0200 (MEST)
>Reply-To: pw_forum at pwscf.org
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>On 06/21/05 15:07:33, sun jason wrote:
> > Yes,you are right, it says "direct redering : no"
> > Is it the problem?
>
>Probably. I wouldn't expect PWgui to be really graphics-intensive,
>but for sure you won't be able to run (for example) XCrysDen at
>decent speed without 3D graphical acceleration.
>
> > how can I change the value?
>
>I'm afraid there's no easy answer. What I can tell you is:
>
>If your card is supported by the free "ati" driver (I don't know),
>you should be able to turn direct rendering on by setting your X
>configuration correctly. How to do that depends on which distribution
>of Linux you are running. In case it's Debian, I'm attaching my X
>config file; that may or may not work for you. (My card is a Radeon
>Mobility 7500.) You may also gather some information by running "man
>radeon".
>
>If your card isn't supported, you'll have to install the proprietary
>(but free of charge) "fglrx" driver released by ATI. Again, if you're
>running Debian, you can find instructions here:
>http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
>
>To find whether your card is supported, I'd suggest you try Knoppix
>(in case you don't know, it's a Linux live-cd, that is, put the
>Knoppix disc into the cd drive, reboot, and it'll load Linux from the
>cd without touching your hard disks. When finished, remove the cd,
>reboot and you'll be back to your existing operating system). It is
>generally believed to have the best hardware configuration support,
>so if it can't enable direct rendering with your card, no other Linux
>probably can (although I've seen one counterexample). If it can, you
>can probably copy its X configuration to your system.
>
>If this isn't enough to solve your problem, I'd recommend that you
>ask for help on the user support mailing list for your Linux
>distribution (for Debian, debian-user at lists.debian.org).
>
>Gerardo
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>Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=XF86Config-4
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>
># XF86Config-4 (XFree86 X Window System server configuration file)
>#
># This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, 
usin=
>g
># values from the debconf database.
>#
># Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
># (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
>#
># This file is automatically updated on xserver-xfree86 package upgrades 
*o=
>nly*
># if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the 
xserver-xfree86
># package.
>#
># If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically 
update=
>d
># again, run the following commands as root:
>#
>#   cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.custom
>#   md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 >/var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum
>#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
>
>Section "Files"
>	FontPath	"unix/:7100"			# local font server
>	# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
>#	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
>	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
>	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
>	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/truetype/latex-xft-fonts"
>#	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
>#	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
>EndSection
>
>Section "Module"
>	Load	"GLcore"
>	Load	"bitmap"
>	Load	"dbe"
>	Load	"ddc"
>	Load	"dri"
>	Load	"extmod"
>	Load	"freetype"
>	Load	"glx"
>	Load	"int10"
>	Load	"record"
>	Load	"speedo"
>	Load	"type1"
>	Load	"vbe"
>EndSection
>
>Section "ServerFlags"
>	Option	"BlankTime"	"10"
>	Option	"StandbyTime"	"20"
>	Option	"SuspendTime"	"30"
>EndSection
>
>Section "InputDevice"
>	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
>	Driver		"keyboard"
>	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
>	Option		"XkbRules"	"xfree86"
>	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
>	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us,it"
>EndSection
>
>Section "InputDevice"
>	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
>	Driver		"mouse"
>	Option		"CorePointer"
>	Option		"Device"		"/dev/psaux"
>	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
>	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
>EndSection
>Section "InputDevice"
>	Identifier	"Generic Mouse"
>	Driver		"mouse"
>	Option		"SendCoreEvents"	"true"
>	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
>	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
>	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
>EndSection
>
>#Section "InputDevice"
>#	Identifier	"Trackpoint"
>#	Driver 		"mouse"
>#	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mouse1"
>#	Option		"SendCoreEvents"	"true"
>#	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
>#EndSection
>
>Section "Device"
>	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 
=
>7500]"
>	Driver		"ati"
>#	Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
>	Option		"AGPFastWrite"		"true"
>	Option		"AGPMode"		"4"
>#	Option		"DDCMode"		"true"
>#	Option		"MonitorLayout"		"LVDS, CRT"
>	Option		"CloneMode"		"1280x960"
>	Option		"CloneHSync"		"30-82"
>	Option		"CloneVRefresh"		"56-76"
>	Option		"EnablePageFlip"	"true"
>	Option		"PanelOff"		"true"
>EndSection
>
>Section "Monitor"
>	Identifier	"Generic Monitor"
>	HorizSync	30-60
>	VertRefresh	50-75
>	Option		"DPMS"
>EndSection
>
>Section "Screen"
>	Identifier	"Default Screen"
>	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 
750=
>0]"
>	Monitor		"Generic Monitor"
>	DefaultDepth	24
>	SubSection "Display"
>		Depth		1
>		Modes		"1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>	EndSubSection
>	SubSection "Display"
>		Depth		4
>		Modes		"1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>	EndSubSection
>	SubSection "Display"
>		Depth		8
>		Modes		"1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>	EndSubSection
>	SubSection "Display"
>		Depth		15
>		Modes		"1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>	EndSubSection
>	SubSection "Display"
>		Depth		16
>		Modes		"1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>	EndSubSection
>	SubSection "Display"
>		Depth		24
>		Modes		"1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>	EndSubSection
>EndSection
>
>Section "ServerLayout"
>	Identifier	"Default Layout"
>	Screen		"Default Screen"
>	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
>	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
>	InputDevice	"Generic Mouse"
>#	InputDevice	"Trackpoint"
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>Section "DRI"
>	Mode	0666
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