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    Dear Zhishuo Huang,<br>
    <br>
    I remember having a similar problem in the past and the only
    solution I found<br>
    was to NOT split the calculation on representations. I think that
    the code assumes<br>
    that the nscf calculation (which needs to be done in order to have
    the wave<br>
    functions for a certain q point) was already done in the first
    representation for<br>
    the q point - thus, for every other representation except the first
    the nscf<br>
    calculation is not done but the code reads the wave functions from
    file. And if<br>
    there aren't enough wave functions you get problems.<br>
    But I'm only guessing - I'm not a PHonon developer.<br>
    <br>
    Another thing: is your system an insulator or a metal? If it's an
    insulator, does it<br>
    have a large gap? If the gap is small, certain phonon modes could
    lead to an<br>
    insulator-metal transition and in this case you should probably try
    treating the<br>
    system as a metal...<br>
    <br>
    Regards<br>
    <br>
    Thomas<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29.03.2018 17:45, Paolo Giannozzi
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
          From: <b class="gmail_sendername">黄志硕</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:zhishuohuang@gmail.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">zhishuohuang@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
          Date: Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:40 PM<br>
          Subject: RE: Different output information in phonon
          calculation of 'GRID' and'SPLIT'<br>
          To: Paolo Giannozzi <<a href="mailto:p.giannozzi@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">p.giannozzi@gmail.com</a>><br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Prof. Paolo Giannozzi,</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you all the same for your
                response. </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">By the way, could you please tell me
                anyone who is following the development or who could
                give me any hint on how to make out what’s wrong with my
                calculation or the Phon module of the code?<br>
                <br>
              </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Zhishuo Huang</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
                  </b><a href="mailto:p.giannozzi@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Paolo
                    Giannozzi</a><br>
                  <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March 27, 2018 09:02 PM<br>
                  <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:zhishuohuang@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                      style="font-family:DengXian" lang="ZH-CN">黄志硕</span></a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: Different output information in
                  phonon calculation of 'GRID' and'SPLIT'</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It's
                        not "a few minutes", it may take hours. I am no
                        longer following the development of the phonon
                        code, by the way</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Paolo</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:36
                        PM, <span style="font-family:DengXian"
                          lang="ZH-CN">黄志硕</span> <<a
                          href="mailto:zhishuohuang@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">zhishuohuang@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Dear Prof. Paolo
                              Giannozzi,</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">I am sorry to
                              bother you through private e-mail, but I
                              have one problem which I posted on the
                              PWscf-mail list and there is no reply
                              about it. I don’t know if I express my
                              problem properly or I disobeyed some rules
                              of posting email on the PWscf-mail list,
                              so I forward to you the e-mail. May I ask
                              you a few minutes to look into my problem?
                              I would appreciate it a lot.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">I am calculating
                              phonon dispersion using two modes of PH
                              module of quantum espresso. One mode is to
                              split total calculation into calculations
                              of each irreducible q point (SPLIT), while
                              the other is the GRID calculation as the
                              demonstrated in the GRID_example, which is
                              to take all the irreducible
                              representations into consideration.
                              However, the output files shows different
                              information when I use these two method to
                              calculate phonon frequency with the same
                              structure and scf input. The main
                              difference is that in the output of GRID
                              method there is a warning shown below:</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">     Starting
                              wfc are  267 atomic wfcs</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Possibly too few
                              bands at point    1  -0.12500   0.12500  
                              0.12500</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Possibly too few
                              bands at point    2   0.37500  -0.37500  
                              0.62500</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Possibly too few
                              bands at point    3  -0.37500   0.37500 
                              -0.12500</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Possibly too few
                              bands at point    4   0.12500  -0.12500  
                              0.37500</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">?</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">?</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">?</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Possibly too few
                              bands at point   87  -1.12500  -0.37500 
                              -0.37500</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Possibly too few
                              bands at point   88  -0.62500  -0.87500  
                              0.12500</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">While there is
                              no such information in the output file of
                              SPLIT method. </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">The input of
                              GRID method for each irreducible
                              representation is shown below </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Phonon of K3C60</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">&inputph</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              tr2_ph=1.0d-17,</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              prefix='K3C60',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  ldisp=.true.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  nq1=2, nq2=2,
                              nq3=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  start_q=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  last_q=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              start_irr=?irr_num?,</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              last_irr=?irr_num?,</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  amass(1)=12</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  amass(2)=39.1</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  outdir='./',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              fildyn='K3C60.dynG',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  reduce_io =
                              .true.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">/</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">And the input of
                              GRID method after collecting all the
                              information of each irreducible
                              representation is </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Phonon of K3</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">&inputph</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              tr2_ph=1.0d-17,</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              prefix='K3C60',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  ldisp=.true.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  nq1=2, nq2=2,
                              nq3=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              recover=.true.,</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  start_q=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  last_q=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  amass(1)=12</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  amass(2)=39.1</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  outdir='./',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              fildyn='K3C60.dynG',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  reduce_io =
                              .true.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">/</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">And the input of
                              SPLIT method is </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Phonon of K3C60</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">&inputph</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              tr2_ph=1.0d-17,</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              prefix='K3C60',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  ldisp=.true.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  nq1=2, nq2=2,
                              nq3=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  start_q=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  last_q=2</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  amass(1)=12</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  amass(2)=39.1</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  outdir='./',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> 
                              fildyn='K3C60.dynG',</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">  reduce_io =
                              .true.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">/</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">##############################<wbr>############################</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Why is there the
                              difference information in the output file
                              for the same structure and scf input? I
                              will appreciate it if anyone could give me
                              any information about that.</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Best regards</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt">Zhishuo Huang</p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-left:4.8pt"> </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Paolo
                    Giannozzi, Dip. Scienze Matematiche Informatiche e
                    Fisiche,<br>
                    Univ. <a
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                      208, 33100 Udine, Italy</a><br>
                    Phone <a href="tel:+39%200432%20558216"
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                <div>Paolo Giannozzi, Dip. Scienze Matematiche
                  Informatiche e Fisiche,<br>
                  Univ. Udine, via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy<br>
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