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    <p>Dear all,</p>
    <p>I fully understand Timrov's concern about the available
      pseudopotentials, I was not aware of that problem. What I would
      suggest then, if a well tested qe 6.2 version is to be released
      very soon, is to include in those .f90 files just all elements for
      which no problem exists, and leave for a later version a better
      handling of this issue.</p>
    <p>All the best,<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 13/10/2017 a las 10:44, Timrov Iurii
      escribió:<br>
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      <p>Dear All,</p>
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      <p>There were some discussions outside of the QE developers
        mailing list about this issue, and we would like to share with
        you our thoughts. José proposed his changes to the files
        set_hubbard_l.f90, set_hubbard_n.f90, tabd.f90, where all
        elements (we haven't checked that really all) are tabulated with
        the corresponding channel to be effected by the Hubbard
        correction. We think we should not hurry and not include this in
        QE 6.2 which is going to be released very soon (as far as we
        know).
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      <p>The main problem is that some pseudos may not comply with the
        default choice of states made in the aforementioned routines.
        For example, for La, in José's version of set_hubbard_l.f90, it
        is specified that hubbard_l = 3 (i.e. the f state). While some
        pseudos include empty 4f states (e.g. Pslibrary, GBRV), some
        pseudos do not (e.g. Dojo library, La.pbe-nsp-van.UPF from the
        QE web site). So, in the latter case the code will crash because
        the f channel is not present in the pseudo. Thus, we have to be
        careful. As Paolo and we discussed, it
         is probably better to have a possibility to specify hubbard_l
        from the input (e.g. if you choose the pseudo which contains 4f
        for La and you want to apply a Hubbard correction to 4f, and not
        5d, then just specify hubbard_l = 3 from the input; if nothing
        is specified in the input, the code can use the default value
        which should work for all pseudos, e.g. hubbard_l =2 for La).
        Another option might be to keep as the default hubbard_l  = 3
        for La, and if the code does not find the f state in the pseudo
        then stop smoothly and ask the user to change hubbard_l by
        specifying it in the input. As we said, probably it would be
        safer to implement this things after the release of QE 6.2 in
        order to avoid possible bugs.<br>
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      <p>Best regards,</p>
      <p>Iurii and Matteo <br>
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            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:20 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> General discussion list for Quantum ESPRESSO
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            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Q-e-developers] on the calculation of
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                <div>I also think that a better solution would be
                  providing parameters of Hubbard U from input.
                  Something like a "Hubbard_U" card with<br>
                  Mn(3d)=4.0<br>
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              O(2p)=5.0<br>
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            Paolo<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:50 PM,
              Timrov Iurii <span dir="ltr">
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                  <p>Dear Jose,</p>
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                  <p>Thanks for the remark, we will keep this in mind
                    when working on the porting of the DFpT code to
                    compute U to the official release of QE. Perhaps it
                    would be useful to introduce input variables <wbr>which allow user
                    to specify which atomic manifold to associate with
                    the Hubbard correction. </p>
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                  <p>Best regards,</p>
                  <p>Iurii  <br>
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                          <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Dear
                              QE developers,</font></p>
                          <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I
                              have seen in the last Psi-K highlight
                              about the advances in the QE code that
                              version 6.2 (now at a release candidate
                              status) will allow computing ab initio U
                              values for the DFT+U scheme using DFpT, so
                              that supercells would not be needed and
                              the process would be much easier. Then, if
                              one wants to find U values considering the
                              response</font><font face="Helvetica,
                              Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
                                Arial, sans-serif"> not only</font> for
                              a specific element but for all of them
                              present in the material, i.e. computing
                              the complete (inverse) susceptibility
                              matrices, it is necessary that Hubbard
                              parameters be considered for all elements
                              in the material. But in its present
                              version, the code in files
                              Modules/set_hubbard_l.f90
                            </font><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                              sans-serif">Modules/set_hubbard_n.f90 and
                              PW/src/tabd.f90 only allows using Hubbard
                              parameters for part of the elements in the
                              periodic table.</font></p>
                          <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">For
                              this reason I wish to make you a request:
                              please include in those files, in the
                              final qe-6.2 version, all elements in the
                              periodic table (well, you may omit noble
                              gases) so that each user does not need to
                              modify those files, and compile the
                              executables again, every time that (s)he
                              has to consider a new element in the
                              material for which U values should be
                              computed. This should not be difficult to
                              do. I am aware that in some cases it may
                              be not clear which atomic subshell should
                              be affected by the Hubbard correction; for
                              example, La might need to do it for d or f
                              orbitals depending on the compound, and In
                              or Zn might be in a similar problem for p
                              and d orbitals. This could be solved just
                              by adding a word of caution in the manual.</font></p>
                          <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hoping
                              that this modification may be made,<br>
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                          <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Best
                              wishes,<br>
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